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  Quote N23 Quote  Post ReplyReply #161 Posted: 05-Mar-2013 at 02:10
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Сонце повторно ја огрева британската железница. Очигледно дека сите оние што го мразат овој вид превоз, порано или подоцна сфаќаат дека е неопходен и во современото општество:



ApplauseДеновиве направив глупост, па наместо со воз, до Београд отидов со автобус (наводно порано да стигнам во Скопје, а всушност се вратив 4 саати покасно од времето кога би стигнал со воз). Мене и понатаму не ми е јасно како на некој му е подобро да патува со автобус, конкретно Ниш Експрес кој застанува во секоја вукоје*ина, а да го игнорира возот, кој ако ништо друго во зимски услови нуди греење и далеку поголем комфор за патниците. Од Белград до Скопје патував 9 и пол саати, време речиси идентично како да сум патувал со воз. Но, од друга страна користиш тоалет кога ти е потребен, а не кога шоферот ќе сака, седиштата се далеку поудобни, а што за патување со воз е најдобро, секогаш се наоѓа по некој нов интересен сопатник, а не мрцварење од Београд до Скопје само со една пауза од 5 минути во Ниш и тоа поради потребата да се "одмори" автобусот.
Статијава ме потсети на тоа колку овдешниот менталитет гледа со потценување на можеби најидеалното превозно средство. Точно е дека е малку поспор, дека возниот парк е поприлично застарен, но ако ништо друго, дефектите се многу поретки (у последни 6 месеци 2 пати се возев со автобус, два пати имаа квар/6 години континуирано користам воз, квар имало само еднаш), комофорот е далеку поголем, а доживувањето е неспоредливо.

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  Quote BOJAN Quote  Post ReplyReply #162 Posted: 03-Mar-2013 at 01:03
Сонце повторно ја огрева британската железница. Очигледно дека сите оние што го мразат овој вид превоз, порано или подоцна сфаќаат дека е неопходен и во современото општество:

How Beeching got it wrong about Britain's railways

As rail companies struggle to meet growing demand, the legacy of 1960s cuts has been to hold back revitalisation of the network

The rail line from St Erth to St Ives is one of Britain's finest. Its tracks hug the cliffs that loom over the sands of Carbis Bay. In the early spring, Atlantic rollers pound the beach while gulls strut in rain-spattered tidal pools.

It is a breathtaking journey – with a flaw. It is over so quickly. The St Ives diesel railcar takes only 17 minutes to cover the line's four miles. Have a lengthy text chat and you will miss it.

And that would be unfortunate – for travellers should relish each mile of this railway gem. Fifty years ago this month, the little Cornish branch line was earmarked for closure as part of a railway restructuring that has become a byword for managerial savagery: the Beeching cuts. The story of the threatened closure of the St Ives line, and its subsequent reprieve, has much to tell us about the impact that British Rail chairman Richard Beeching had on Britain then – and today.

Published on 27 March 1963, Beeching's report, The Restructuring of British Railways, outlined plans to cut more than 5,000 miles of track and more than 2,000 stations. Dozens of branch lines that linked villages with market towns were rated egregious loss-makers to be culled, along with great chunks of mainline.

The railways that had helped Britain become an industrial power, but which were now haemorrhaging money, were to be cut back brutally. The car would replace the train, Beeching decreed. In doing so, he ushered in an era of vast motorway expansion and cheap motorised transport. The train, deemed dirty and smoky, was earmarked for extinction. If Beeching and other transport planners of the day had had their way, only a rump of inter-city lines would have been left.

Today the makeup of UK transport looks very different from the one envisaged by Dr Beeching. Rail passenger figures have almost doubled over the past 10 years; commuter trains are crammed; young people are deserting the car for the train; and Britain's railway bosses are struggling to meet soaring demands for seats. The legacy of Beeching – dug-up lines, sold-off track beds and demolished bridges – has only hindered plans to revitalise the network, revealing the dangers of having a single, inflexible vision when planning infrastructure.

"The crucial lesson to take from the Beeching anniversary is that you have to be flexible when planning transport infrastructure. Beeching was not," says Colin Divall, professor of rail history at York University. "Yes, many loss-making lines did need closing down, but nowhere near the number earmarked by Beeching, as we can now see with terrible hindsight."

Examples of the headaches imposed by Beeching's legacy include the Varsity line that used to link Oxford and Cambridge and which the government now wants to reopen to connect fast-growing Milton Keynes with Oxbridge's research centres. Rebuilding the disused western section between Oxford and Bedford will cost £270m and could be ready by 2017. But the track bed of the eastern section, between Bedford and Cambridge, was sold decades ago and has since been built on. How transport planners get round this problem remains to be seen.

Another example is the old Southampton to Dorchester line, which was closed between Brockenhurst and Hamworthy. Since then, the area has gone through a huge expansion and its roads are regularly jammed with commuters into Southampton. Reopening the Brockenhurst-Hamworthy line would certainly ease that congestion. Unfortunately, the line's western track bed was sold off and dug up.

"There are countless examples like these," says Christian Wolmar, author of Fire and Steam: How the Railways Transformed Britain. "Transport planners in the 60s simply could not conceive of the idea that a line, once closed, would need to be reopened. Their mindset saw trains as dirty and futureless. Reopening a closed rail line was simply not a possible option. So British Rail just sold off the land whenever it could, a policy that is costing us dearly today."

Not every reopening has been scuppered, however. Several examples are provided in Scotland, including work to reopen 30 miles of the Waverley line that once linked Edinburgh and Carlisle but which was closed by Beeching. Its replacement, the Borders railway, which will run south for 30 miles from Edinburgh as far as Tweedbank, will be the longest new domestic railway to be built in Britain for more than a century and should be complete in 2015. Crucially, there are no problems with dug-up track bed or demolished bridges on that part of the Waverley.

The fact that routes are being reopened and other rail relaunches being planned raises a key question. Why has rail become so popular? What factors have changed to make people want to return to the train? The answer, it transpires, has more to do with the UK's fading romance with the car than a refound love of the train.

"In the 60s, young people – when asked by pollsters – often said they would rather have a car than the vote," says Professor David Begg, chief executive of Transport Times. "Today they are more likely to say they would rather have an iPhone than a car."

Underlying factors for this disillusion with the car include road congestion and spiralling costs of driving, particularly for the young: car insurance has increased by 80% for young people in the past two years, for example, compared with a 20% rise for those aged 50, while numbers of those aged 17-19 who take the driving test have dropped by a fifth in the past five years. At the same time, rail companies have been aggressive in promoting cheap deals for the under-25s.

"Young people simply cannot afford to run cars and that has driven up rail passengers numbers at a rate of about 6% a year at a time when we are going through major financial depressions," adds Begg. "It is quite extraordinary."

Beeching's legacy has been to thwart plans to fulfil the country's renewed need for rail infrastructure, though there have been some benefits. There are now more than 1,500 miles of cycle pathway in Britain that have been built on old rail track, most of it generated by Beeching cuts.


A musical elegy to the lost stations from Flanders and Swann.
And then there are the preserved steam lines, including the North Yorkshire Moors and West Somerset railways. Many of these are built on track closed by Beeching and have become a key part of Britain's heritage industry. The European Federation of Museum and Tourist Railways includes 102 passenger-carrying preserved railways in Britain and Ireland. The total for the rest of Europe is 117. The British have a love for railways that Beeching never understood.

A sense of loss that was felt at the time of his cuts is revealed by Michael Flanders and Donald Swann in their song, Slow Train, a loving tribute to the nation's lost lines:

"No one departs and no one arrives
From Selby to Goole, from St Erth to St Ives
They've all passed out of our lives."

A few jewels survived, however, though this was often due more to luck than good management. The Heart of Wales line survived only because it ran through seven marginal parliamentary seats, for example. As for the St Erth-St Ives branch, its continued existence had much to do with the whims of the incoming transport minister, Labour's Barbara Castle, who inherited the Tory government's Beeching legacy. She decided closure "would have involved destroying the whole character" of St Ives and refused to sign the line's closure notice. Thus she saved a pearl of a line for the nation – and helped St Ives thrive as a trendy resort, a point that is hard to appreciate in winter inside the deserted railcar that shuttles along the palm-fringed tracks between St Ives and St Erth on the mainline.

But it is a different matter in summer, The train is filled with tourists who shun the frequently jammed road into the town. Thanks to Castle, the line has not passed out of our lives.

THE AXEMAN

There are few men more vilified in British history than Richard Beeching. In popularity rankings, the former ICI boss - who was, after all, responsible for axing 5,000 miles of UK rail network - usually ranks somewhere between Richard III and Robert Maxwell.

However, in recent years others have tried to resurrect his reputation and have argued that Beeching actually saved the railways by taking his axe to the lines that were losing the most money. Had he not done so, worse cuts would have followed in later years, it is claimed.

Certainly, Beeching looks an unlikely villain. With his trim moustache and rotund features, the Sheerness-born businessman looks anything but sinister.

But Richard Faulkner, co-author with Chris Austin of Holding the Line: How Britain's Railways Were Saved, will have no truck with any revisionist sympathy for the man. "Beeching had only one recipe for saving Britain's loss-making railways and that was to make the network smaller and smaller. He lacked vision and we are paying for that today. Of course, he was not the only public figure who completely misunderstood railways but he was certainly the most prominent."

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  Quote gjoko Quote  Post ReplyReply #163 Posted: 24-Dec-2012 at 00:32
браво,мада мислам дека патничката брзина сепак ќе биди околу 300 км/ќ
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  Quote +Protagorist Quote  Post ReplyReply #164 Posted: 23-Dec-2012 at 20:39

   

HaјсилнoтoOpужјe е вo caмитeHac cинaпoвo3pнo co НaдeжВepaЉубoв
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  Quote gjoko Quote  Post ReplyReply #165 Posted: 11-Nov-2012 at 17:23
многу жално,мислат дека 200 тони ќе кренат со некои марами
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  Quote Dexter26 Quote  Post ReplyReply #166 Posted: 11-Nov-2012 at 16:02
Не е баш како во документарните емисии од типот на Destroyed in Seconds, но дефинитивно за само неколку секунди, милионска инвестиција од типот на тазе нова австралиска дизел локомотива EMD GT46C-ACe, наместо да билда километража на железничките пруги, првото искуство што го стекна при истоварување, беше бакнување на тврдиот бетон и тоа ептен силно.
 



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  Quote tomo441 Quote  Post ReplyReply #167 Posted: 16-Oct-2012 at 09:40
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Нешто интересно од Индија. Пругата Londa - Margaon поминува точно кај 310-метри високите „Dudhsagar“ водопади и глетката е навистина фантастична:12




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  Quote gjoko Quote  Post ReplyReply #168 Posted: 15-Oct-2012 at 18:12
светот поседува знаење воглавном од америчките филмови,а што се случува во `третиот свет` и што све има таму слабо се знае.ќе се изненадуваме све повеќе и повеќе од вакви глетки.светот ни започнува ни завршува со Америка и Европа.Имаат и другите што да покажат,само немаат механизни за промовирање
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  Quote Cloverstack Quote  Post ReplyReply #169 Posted: 15-Oct-2012 at 11:56


Нешто интересно од Индија. Пругата Londa - Margaon поминува точно кај 310-метри високите „Dudhsagar“ водопади и глетката е навистина фантастична:


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  Quote N23 Quote  Post ReplyReply #170 Posted: 06-Oct-2012 at 12:31
Еве уште по некоја слика што не стигна да биде закачена во постот.

1. Унгарски вагон реновиран во Гредељ


2.Убацување што повеќе пластика и мрсна боја е спас и за нашите вагони


3. Уште нешто од станицата во Братислава, мошне симпатично место


4.Влез во Братислава


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6."Стандарден" лик на станица во Словачка


7. Мој совет за главната станица во Прага - ако имате слабо срце или не сте љубители на слика како од Реквием за еден сон, најдобро е до максимум 19 часот да ги користите услугите на оваа станица. Што после може да се види, е како од филм снимен во Бронкс (ако некој друг ја посетил станицава нека сподели искуство)


8.Пред главниот влез
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9. Главната железничка станица во Дрезден


10. Спална кола (Чесите ги имаат едни од најудобните спални коли, со оглед дека имаат голем број на EN линии кон западна Европа и Скандинавија)


Ако некогаш се решите на пат низ Европа, а патот ве води преку Прага или било кој друг чешки град, ондак има одлична понуда наречена Sporotiket и која нуди сосема добри попусти на голем број линии кон Германија, Полска, Данска и сл.


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  Quote N23 Quote  Post ReplyReply #171 Posted: 02-Oct-2012 at 13:21
Со оглед дека голем дел од мојот фото-материјал од овогодинешното шетање го ставив во постов, секој што е заинтересиран за состојбата со железниците во централна Европа може да го посети овој линк

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Во блиска иднина ќе ги објавам и остатокот од сликите.
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  Quote Cloverstack Quote  Post ReplyReply #172 Posted: 01-Sep-2012 at 23:36

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  Quote BOJAN Quote  Post ReplyReply #173 Posted: 15-Aug-2012 at 17:21

Virgin Trains loses west coast mainline franchise to FirstGroup

FirstGroup takes on routes from London to Glasgow, Manchester and Liverpool, promising more seats and extra trains



The UK's largest rail operator FirstGroup is to take over the running of the west coast mainline – one of Britain's most profitable routes – run by Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Trains since 1997.

The new deal, first revealed in the Guardian, runs from December until 2026 and is the first of several long and lucrative franchises to be decided over the next two years. FirstGroup bid £5.5bn, rising to £6.1bn if it sees out a 20-month extension, plus £250m in guarantees for the right to operate the Intercity west coast services from London to destinations including Glasgow, Manchester and Liverpool. The bid means it will have to find £390m in premiums each year compared with the £160m currently paid by Virgin.

Branson said his company would never have bid at the levels of FirstGroup because of the risk of "almost certain bankruptcy", and branded the Department for Transport's decision "insanity". Virgin tabled a bid of around £4.8bn, £5.4bn for the full term. The other shortlisted competitors, Abellio and Keolis-SNCF, are believed to have bid substantially less.

FirstGroup said it would add around 12,000 seats, with 11 extra trains, and new services to stations including Blackpool, Shrewsbury and Bolton. It will also reduce the amount of first class seating while reconfiguring the Pendolino trains to add more seats.

Tim O'Toole, chief executive of FirstGroup, rejected claims that there was excessive risk in his company's bid and said there was huge scope for growth on the line. He also categorically denied there would be job losses as unions fear, although he said many would be redeployed.

O'Toole said: "Our winning bid is a deliverable proposition that is compelling for all who want to see a greater use of our rail networks.

"We think it delivers an appropriate return. This line has had all this investment, it has enormous capacity that is yet to be taken up, and even more to come."

Longer trains and additional seating will mean 35% more seats on the line in five years, O'Toole said.

"We will be making significant improvements including reduced journey times and introducing new direct services. We will improve marketing and deliver a smart ticketing system, refreshed and improved train interiors, station upgrades and even better catering."

He would not confirm the name of the new service that will succeed Virgin — the railways' most recognisable brand — although FirstGroup has registered the name Horizon at Companies House.

O'Toole said he believed Virgin had failed to exploit the possibilities to attract customers onto the trains in quieter periods. "We believe the whole pricing structure is warped and cliff edged — if we give more products we can improve the yield."

He promised a 15% reduction in standard anytime fares over the next two years — a pledge that would see the price of a £148 single from London to Manchester drop by around £22. Overall, fares are set to rise above inflation every year for the foreseeable future.

The FirstGroup bid depends on passenger growth of 5.8% each year, a figure O'Toole said matched government predictions for trains to be at the limits of capacity by 2026, when the proposed high speed rail network should start operating. Responding to Branson's criticisms, he said: "I think he lost the bid."

Virgin Trains, which is 49% owned by the transport group Stagecoach, is believed to be considering challenging the decision in the courts. Stagecoach said that it was "disappointed" by the decision. It said it had bid for the new franchise but only on terms that offered "an acceptable risk".

"We considered that a number of the features of the new franchise increased the risk to the train operating company relative to other franchises awarded over recent years," Stagecoach said. The features included the increased length of the franchise, the method used to calculate premiums and "greater macroeconomic uncertainty" which would make it harder for the operator to make a return.


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  Quote BOJAN Quote  Post ReplyReply #174 Posted: 23-May-2012 at 01:02
Според податоците на Руските државни железници, во првиот квартал од 2012 година на меѓународните возови помеѓу Русија и врските со преку 20 земји од Европа и Азија се превезени 23,8 милиони патници, што е за 1,9% повеќе во однос на првиот квартал од 2011 година.

Во истиот период во внатрешниот меѓуградски сообраќај во најголемата земја на светот се превезени 199,3 милиони патници, што е зголемување од 10% во однос на првите три месеци од 2011 година.

Севкупно, во првиот квартал се превезени 223,1 милиони патници што претставува зголемување од 9,1% во однос на претходната година, а истовремено е забележан раст од 4,1% во превозот на товар (вкупно 306,5 милиони тони стока!). Руските државни железници, поради укинувањата од страна на Италијанските и Грчките железници, ова лето нема да можат да ги организираат планираните врски до Венеција и Солун, но затоа остануваат возовите за црноморското и јадранското приморје, овој пат и со вагони на релација Москва-Сплит-Москва.
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  Quote gjoko Quote  Post ReplyReply #175 Posted: 29-Apr-2012 at 11:45
Првиот европски супербрз воз во Италија
Недела, 29 Април 2012 11:15
Сподели

Споделете ја веста со Вашите пријатели
Патниците во Италија сега имаат алтернатива кога патуваат помеѓу Милано и Неапол и градови како Рим кои се измеѓу.
Во земјата започна да сообраќа првиот приватен брз воз во Европа, јави „Euronews“.

Објавени се снимки и видео анимација од неговата внатрешност.

Возот е Ферари во црвена боја и достигнува максимална брзина од 360 километри на час.

Има 450 седишта и нуди бесплатен интернет, премиера на филмови и ексклузивни канали за патниците.


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  Quote N23 Quote  Post ReplyReply #176 Posted: 28-Mar-2012 at 23:04

Не сум сигурен дека ги имаме некаде забележано овие гарнитури. 

Шкода - EMV 471 (CityElefant)

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А најновите во Украина 675

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  Quote Cloverstack Quote  Post ReplyReply #177 Posted: 22-Mar-2012 at 01:55
Неколку импресивни кадри


1.  Франкфурт



2. Повторно Франкфурт



3. И повторно Франкфурт, овој пат и истиот дел како претходната фотка, но во поинакво издание



4. Лондон



5. Чикаго

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Francuska i Italija grade brzu prugu

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PARIZ, Francuska i Italija su potpisale sporazum o izgradnji brze pruge između Liona i Torina, što je najveći takav projekat u Evropi, uprkos protivljenju u Italijii.

Pruga, koja treba da bude izgrađena do 2023, skratila bi putovanje vozom od Pariza do Torina na malo više od četiri sata, sa sadašnjih sedam.
Putovanje između Liona i Torina bilo bi skraćeno na ispod dva sata sa malo više od četiri, koliko sada traje. Radovi će početi kopanjem 57 kilometara dugačkog tunela ispod Alpa, koji će povezati pogranične oblasti.
Francuska, Italija i EU zajedno će finansirati izgradnju tunela, vrijednu 8,5 milijardi evra, a zamjenik italijanskog ministra saobraćaja Mario Čača izjavio je da se nada da će EU pokriti 40 odsto troškova.

Pri izgradnji pruge biće uzete u obzir studije o uticaju na život ljudi i okolinu na italijanskoj strani, gdje su prošle godine održani burni protesti, naveo je ministar saobraćaja Francuske Tijeri Marijani.

Prošle nedjelje je uhapšeno oko 40 ljudi, od kojih je 26 zadržano u pritvoru, zbog nasilnih protesta protiv izgradnje pruge koji su održani u julu.

“Manjina ne može da ugrozi zajedničku odluku, koja je u skladu sa državnim i programima EU”, ocijenio je Čača, koji je obećao da će rok za izgradnju pruge biti ispoštovan.

Početni radovi na raščišćavanju terena predviđenog za izgradnju pruge započeli su prošlog ljeta u dolini Susa na sjeveru Italije pod budnim okom policije, budući da su demonstranti pokušavali da se probiju kroz ograde koje su postavljene oko terena gdje se vrše pripremni radovi za izgradnju tunela.

Stanovnici doline Susa žestoko se protive tom planu, ističući da bi izgradnja tunela nanijela štetu životnoj sredini.

http://www.capital.ba/francuska-i-italija-grade-brzu-prugu/
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  Quote gjoko Quote  Post ReplyReply #179 Posted: 27-Jan-2012 at 02:01
незнам дали сте слушнале за `течапи` кругот во САД,ама е интересно да се види,со напомена све што се гледа е една композиција.на googlea earth добро се гледа линијата на пругата како се врти за 360 степени и повеќе



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  Quote gjoko Quote  Post ReplyReply #180 Posted: 26-Dec-2011 at 23:12
еве подобра слика од вечер

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