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  Quote Cloverstack Quote  Post ReplyReply #421 Posted: 20-Apr-2008 at 00:48
Originally posted by pbanks


I think we all agreed that the Madzir malo strip next to the train station is better because it would be surrounded by big boulevards including the future Krusevska republika which would be able to handle the incoming/outgoing traffic. The holiday in location is just very limited because it faces just one big boulevard.


Madzir-Maalo is an exelent location too, but why should those both exclude each other. In fact I always cheered for a continuous highrise cluster from GTC, all the way to the Transport Center.

I think there wouldn't be problems with upgraded infrastructure. The holiday in location can be also connected to the underground corridor and to the current "494th Street" (which is supposed to be multilane and connected to 3rd Macedonian brigade Boulevard.

On the other hand, buildings in Madzir-Maalo won't have any direct connection to Krusevska because of the nature of that corridor. But that too is not a problem, if the overall network is correctly planned.
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  Quote vardar Quote  Post ReplyReply #422 Posted: 19-Apr-2008 at 23:57
Yeah the 300 meters is science fiction, first of all as you would know if youve been to Skopje theres a lot of empty spaces in the city center (mainly from the earthquake).....now these areas are slowly being filled but in my opinion it will be a long while until these are "filled" and theres enough demand for skyscrapers....However as you said an investor can show up like in Prishtina and voila you have a beatiful scryscraper going up Yes . About the area i dont know but to give you a rough idea id GUESS  50-60.000 m2
BTW there was an article in the papers today about the main investor of ENK Edmond Krliu aparently he is an albanian from macedonia  and the paper was saying how our companies were hoping to get a piece of the pie LOL It also said he bought some construction company in Kosovo and that he's building the scyscraper on the land of the company.....
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  Quote SkaNdErBeG Quote  Post ReplyReply #423 Posted: 19-Apr-2008 at 22:21
Cloverstack, thanks alot for the map.... 300m?! wow... that's kind of too big
The location looks pretty good, with the river and all next by, plus seems like it is in the heart of the center? Although, Im not really informed with the current infrastructure situation in that area, or its potential...

Maybe regular streets in that area, can be expanded to 4 lanes in the future...

btw, cloverstack; how big in square meters is this skyscraper regulated area?


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  Quote pbanks Quote  Post ReplyReply #424 Posted: 19-Apr-2008 at 21:18
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Who is dissatisfied? I thought you liked the location! I sure do.

And I don't see a problem with the infrastructure. As Skanderbeg noted, the infrastructure can be developed even during the construction of the actual buildings. Why do you need to have the infrastructure completed, even before you start digging?


I think we all agreed that the Madzir malo strip next to the train station is better because it would be surrounded by big boulevards including the future Krusevska republika which would be able to handle the incoming/outgoing traffic. The holiday in location is just very limited because it faces just one big boulevard.
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  Quote Cloverstack Quote  Post ReplyReply #425 Posted: 19-Apr-2008 at 21:11
Skanderbeg, I roughly outlined the area with red. ATM there is a big parking lot and some old houses there.

Three buildings of up to 300m are allowed on the location now Crazy




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  Quote Cloverstack Quote  Post ReplyReply #426 Posted: 19-Apr-2008 at 20:57
Originally posted by pbanks

we are dissatisfied with the location (the holiday inn parking lot). The infrastructure there just can't cope with projects of that magnitude.


Who is dissatisfied? I thought you liked the location! I sure do.

And I don't see a problem with the infrastructure. As Skanderbeg noted, the infrastructure can be developed even during the construction of the actual buildings. Why do you need to have the infrastructure completed, even before you start digging?
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  Quote SkaNdErBeG Quote  Post ReplyReply #427 Posted: 19-Apr-2008 at 20:38
hmm... cant really imagine where that is.. Have been to Skopje many times, but cant seem to remember any Holiday Inn ...Crazy

would it be too much to ask, sometime when you have the time - to post a map of Skopje, with some drawn red lines or something which illustrates this area?

anyway.. this is the most important thing, to have a regulation plan which allows such developments to happen.. Infrastructure can maybe be improved eventually in coordination with the projects...

Don't be surprised if something really cool shows up in Skopje... Investors can suddenly show up, the regulation plan is the most important factor for such developments... just like a 165m complex which was unimaginable some recent time ago - is now suddenly U/C in Prishtina..Cheers


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  Quote pbanks Quote  Post ReplyReply #428 Posted: 19-Apr-2008 at 20:29
Originally posted by SkaNdErBeG

it all starts with chit chat

but most importantly, does the regulation plan for a specific zone in Skopje allow such developments to happen?


that's the only breakthrough. The regulation plan is changed but as we discussed in this thread we are dissatisfied with the location (the holiday inn parking lot). The infrastructure there just can't cope with projects of that magnitude.
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  Quote SkaNdErBeG Quote  Post ReplyReply #429 Posted: 19-Apr-2008 at 20:26
it all starts with chit chat

but most importantly, does the regulation plan for a specific zone in Skopje allow such developments to happen?
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  Quote pbanks Quote  Post ReplyReply #430 Posted: 19-Apr-2008 at 20:20
nothing specific skanderbeg. just chit chat, hypothetical scenarios etc. 
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  Quote SkaNdErBeG Quote  Post ReplyReply #431 Posted: 19-Apr-2008 at 20:15
any news regarding skyscrapers in Skopje?


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  Quote ProMKD Quote  Post ReplyReply #432 Posted: 17-Mar-2008 at 00:16
Упс, преместени се постовите :P Јас пак на вести лупнав, ај ќе избришете..

Него ја не сум против стокатниците да беше можно да ги пополниме... МРТВ седи полу празно, а со што ќе ги наполниме канцелариите од +/- 600 спрата??
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  Quote Cloverstack Quote  Post ReplyReply #433 Posted: 17-Mar-2008 at 00:12
Мислам повеќето од нас не се против облакодери, туку против дилетантскиот однос на оние што као ги „планираат“. Да се „планира“ може сешто, ама реализација е друга работа. Види го само насловот во Време, од текстот што го посочи ProMKD:


УСВОЕН НОВИОТ ДУП НА ОПШТИНА ЦЕНТАР
Изградбата на стокатниците од иднината може да почне


Nuts

Демек ние го решивме главниот проблем (усвојување на некој ДУП со сомнителен квалитет), и еве уште утре може да почне да се гради... Финтата е што вака не размислува само некоја си новинарка, туку и надлежните.

Еве уште еден интересен детал од текстот:
Инаку, и општината Аеродром предложи слична иницијатива за изградба на облакодери. Два од сто ката и еден од шеесет.


Малце чуден концепт, ама у резонот на Киро боље да не се мешам Crazy
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  Quote lslcrew Quote  Post ReplyReply #434 Posted: 17-Mar-2008 at 00:05
Што сте бе па вие толку против 100-катници. Јас Скопје во иднина го гледам токму вакво!!!
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  Quote ProMKD Quote  Post ReplyReply #435 Posted: 17-Mar-2008 at 00:02
Тоа за дивјаштво беше шала LOLCheers
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  Quote Cloverstack Quote  Post ReplyReply #436 Posted: 16-Mar-2008 at 23:03
Па не е баш за у дивјаштво, поише за у урбанистички планови Smile

Инаку и плановите и стокатниците се дискутирани, не си разлистал доволно LOL
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  Quote ProMKD Quote  Post ReplyReply #437 Posted: 16-Mar-2008 at 21:08
Ова можеби е за во урбано дивјаштво ама ај...

Читам сеа нели дека ДУПот е изменет за центар за стокатниците кај холидеј ин.. и сеа тука пишува дека и во аеродром ДУПот е изменет за кај касарната да има исто 3 стокатници??

Извинете ако е дискутирано веќе на темава но мислам дека не е

Општините Центар и Аеродром ги менуваат Деталните урбанистички планови за да можат да ја реализираат идејата за изградба на шест стокатници во градот. Три од облакодерите ќе се градат на паркингот спроти хотелот „Холидеј ин“, а другите во близина на касарната „Гоце Делчев“ во Аеродром

http://vreme.com.mk/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabindex=6&tabid=1&EditionID=1344&ArticleID=86866


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  Quote Supervisor Quote  Post ReplyReply #438 Posted: 28-Jan-2008 at 22:56
Originally posted by La Linea

Да се изгради ваков објект, со вакви димензии, со денешните градежни материјали, и со буџет на една Општина Аеродром(алоо еј!) + донации (кој, цел буџет на Дубаи?!) не само што е невозможно, туку е и мегаломански и нескладно со околината...    
Па кога општината ти ја води некој морж како Кирил Тодоровски, тоа ти е...
 
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  Quote pbanks Quote  Post ReplyReply #439 Posted: 28-Jan-2008 at 22:54


ете гледаш дека е корисно да се дискутира за облакодериве, како друкчие ќе ги документираме овие бисери на Трифка LOL
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  Quote Supervisor Quote  Post ReplyReply #440 Posted: 28-Jan-2008 at 22:52
Originally posted by Cloverstack

http://vest.com.mk/default.asp?id=143408&idg=7&idb=2220&rubrika=Makedonija


ЗАГЛАВИ ВЛАДИНИОТ ПРОЕКТ "МЕНХЕТН ВО СКОПЈЕ"
Костовски не му дава стокатници на Груевски
"Кога успеаја Близначките во Њујорк да ги турнат, тероризмот веќе не гледа каде напаѓа, тој бара само жртви. Јас не сакам моето Скопје да ја има истата црна судбина на Њујорк", вели Костовски, (Е.А.)


 
хухуху абре Костовски прво близначките си ги урнаа самите Американци, второ ние немаме кеш ни за семафори а не за стокатници Big%20smileBig%20smileBig%20smileBig%20smile
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