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    Posted: 11-Jan-2012 at 08:00

KNEZE - Sveti Nikole

An ongoing archaeological excavation of a large plateau at Kneže near Sveti Nikole in Republic of Macedonia unearthed the site of an ancient city that coincides in chronology and ubication of Psaphara in Paraxia, Philippoupolis in Parorbelia, Antigonia in Paeonia and Presidio, all with historical past of existence on the exact same location. The ancient city at Kneze occupied the most strategic location of importance for defence and control of Paeonia as an independent country or administrative province.

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The village Kneze - entrance to the archaeological locality

 

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  Quote Paraxiae Quote  Post ReplyReply #2 Posted: 15-Jan-2012 at 19:47

PRESIDIO

Nothing is known of Presidio in addition to the name listed in the Tabula Peuntigeriana as one of the stations on the way from Stobi to Scupi. Judging by the distance given in the Tabula Peuntigeriana Presidio seems to conform to the site of the ancient city Psaphara in Paraxia, Philippoupolis in Parorbelia and Antigonia in Paeonia, all ubicated at Kneže near Sveti Nikole.

PRESIDIO

It is assumed that Presidio must have got its name commemorating its past of some city of great importance. The city of Presidio shared the same fate as Stobi because all invaders from the north had to pass through it on the road to Stobi. In 479 Theodoric the Great invaded Stobi and laid the city in ruins and probably Presidio shared the same fate. Later after the invasion of Balkans by the Slavs and Avars, Presidio must have been forgotten forever.

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Edited by Paraxiae - 15-Jan-2012 at 23:36
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  Quote kultuzin Quote  Post ReplyReply #3 Posted: 15-Jan-2012 at 23:56
@Paraxiae правев муебат за темите со еден братучед ми кажа дека Филипос бил град во близина на денешен Пловдив. Градот го изградил Филип по победата над Тракиците.
Можеби се работи за друг град јас од текстот овде колку што разбрав Филипос е блсику до Свети Николе.
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  Quote Paraxiae Quote  Post ReplyReply #4 Posted: 16-Jan-2012 at 00:45
Vo antickoto vreme bilo mnogu voobicaeno koga togasnite kralevi osvojat nova teritorija od sosednite narodi da osnovat grad so imeto na vladetelot, so cel od toj grad da se komanduva i upravuva so pripoenata provincija. Taka e bil i slucajot koga Philip II vojuva so Peoncite i gi pobeduva. Togas toj go osnovuva gradot Philipoupolis, mnogu malku poznat vo istorijata, pod imeto Philippoupolis in Parorbelia. Tocnata lokacijata na mestoto Parorbelia ne e bila poznata na nikoj do sega bidejki istoricarite koi ja pisuvale istorijata na Makedonija mnogu slabo ja imat poznavano georafijata na Republika Makedonija. Ednostavno, planinata Orbelus ili Orbelos e identicna so Osogovo dodeka Parorbelia e vsusnost Osogovijata kaj nas. Vo toa vreme geografskata oblast Parorbelia e bila grub orientacionen pokazatel za mestopolozbata na gradot Philippoupolis in Parorbelia, koj Philip II go osnovuva vo momenot koga sinot Aleksandar Veliki se raga. Moe soznanie e deka komandniot centar na Peoncite e bil vo gradot Psaphara vo distriktot Paraxiae, koj vsusnost se poklopuva so Ovcepolijata i arheoloskiot lokalitet kaj Kneze, vo blizina na Sveti Nikole. Tvrdenjeto deka na toj lakalitet e postojal gradot Bylazora e glupost i prav absurd bidejki profesorot Ivan Mikulcic na koj mu teknalo vo 1976 godina da ja preseli Bylazora od Veles na rekata Vardar daleku vo vnatresnosta na togasnata Paeonia e bez nikakov osnov i cvrst dokaz osven samo suva sugestija. Antickite geografi ubavo kazuvat deka Bylazora se naogala na granicata prema Dardanite koi se ziveele vo Skopskata kotlina i ridskiot predel od desnata strana na Vardar prema Veles. Kaj Veles postoi klisura i tesnec preku koj po tecenieto na rekata Vardar se vleguvale Dardanite vo Tikvesijata kade deneska se naoga Stobi. Vo vremeto na Philip V gradot Bylazora e bil od stratesko znacenje za odbranata na Makedonija od napadite na Dardanite, koi se bile sojuznici na Rim vo vojnata so Makedonija.


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  Quote Makedonij Quote  Post ReplyReply #5 Posted: 17-Jan-2012 at 21:22
Незнам зошто си отворил уште две нишки за една и иста тема, овоа е опфатено во нишката Вилазора, истотака и нишката Антигонеја во Пеонија си ја представил со слика од Вилазора, всушност и двете ти нишки говорат за еден локалитет, кој веќе има своја нишка!

Во едната ја покажуваш акрополота, која се наоѓа цца 800 метри од оваа слика која си ја представил тука, тоа шо си го представил е или влез или бунар....




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  Quote Paraxiae Quote  Post ReplyReply #6 Posted: 17-Jan-2012 at 22:11
Jas mislam deka sekoj sto moze da pridonese nesto so novi znaenja i vidici za minatoto na nas makedoncite bi trebalo da bide za pofalba a ne predmet za kavga. Tvoite zamerki bi imale najgolem efekt ako se poplakas direktno kaj admnistratorite bidejki tie se nad nas koi palat i gasat.
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