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all folk songs from this place definitely owing gratitude to Slavic Saints Cyril and Methodius for compiling the Glagolitic alphabet that with further development by their disciples it became the Cyrillic alphabet, they start to write on mother tongue of own native people that lived in Macedonia and spreading the Word of God through the world to tribes that had same or similar roots either by filiation, culture or beliefs [1][2][3] by them we are named Slaveni (meaning famous from proto-indo-european word kléues meaning fame/glory) and Sloveni (those who have/know the Word) [1], we praise their efforts on church and national feast every 24th of may, giving them a credit for their sacrifice to literate and inchurch people in Macedonia and around the orthodox world...



in last post is given appreciation to traditional songs of unnamed genius, for that merit goes to folk-collectors & mythographers and their efforts for collecting and preserving the folk heritage as it was Marko Cepenkov [1] whose stories beside in written http://www.mling.ru/etnolingvistika/makedonia/folktales.pdf today are passed also in visual form http://vimeo.com/prikazni except folk tellers we have many famous and acknowledged writers and poets from middle ages [1][2][3] e.g. Saint Clement [1] and Saint Naum [1] from Ohrid, and many other up until today...

over the centuries many writers had used dialects that today are forgotten although our language still has plenty of patois [1] that in present republic of Macedonia had been and still are used in the songs and literature... this "undialectization" has started notably after Cyrillic alphabet was standardized in 1944 [1][2] but similar process surly had have been done even in the beginning when Slavic Apostles had took south macedonian dialect from Salonica as base for codification of the language and start passing it to north [1][2][3]


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from romantic period, most famous poems in Macedonia are Serdarot [1] epic poem from Grigor Prlicev and T'ga Za Yug [1] quoted in the first post as nostalgic poem from Konstantin Miladinov who were inspiration for many poets after their time http://www.pen.org.mk/en/publications/anthology-of-macedonian-pen-poets- most of them modernists like Matea Matevski which poem is presented below, joined after by the song Zajdi Zajdi as rearranged traditional poem, just to point out how deep "can go" local melorecitation...   


Sunset

Crimson. Crimson. Crimson.

Like a song carried off
into the blue sea
of mountains
the sunset
drowns...

From the grass to the shepherd's pipe
from the flock to the cloud
all luxuriant
ablazed.

From chest to song
from step to fountain
everything is strangely
coddled.

A flock enamoured of the shepherd's pipe
a bell lost in a song
an eye crazed over a peony.

Crimson. Crimson. Crimson.
http://www.e-books.com.mk/01poetry/matevski/eng.asp


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The Cultural Heritage department keeps the central archive of cultural heritage related material, which is open to the public as well. Information on cultural monuments, incl. photographs, drawings, plans, microfilms or textual documentation, etc., are at ones' disposal.

The National Museum of Macedonia owns the largest specialized library in the country, with more than 10,000 volumes from the field of art history, archaeology, history, conservation, restoration, architecture, urbanism, etc., which can be freely consulted.

Due to the insufficiently developed museum management and marketing, information on the museum collections and exhibitions can be obtained through the Macedonian Tourist Association and its affiliates throughout the country. This fact stands for the presentation and public access to most of the cultural heritage, which makes the promotion of cultural tourism difficult and thus - insufficient. In that way, National institutions organize different public events each year, among which is the European Heritage days, for better promotion of the cultural heritage and raising public awareness on its significance and role in modern life.
http://www.european-heritage.net/sdx/herein/national_heritage/voir.xsp?id=6.1_MK_en


SEEHN - http://www.seeheritage.org/macedonia/history.html

- http://www.see-heritage-download.org/Ohrid_World_Heritage_Sites_EN.pdf

- http://www.see-heritage-download.org/Ottoman_Monuments_EN.pdf

- http://www.see-heritage-download.org/Archaeological_sites_EN.pdf

On May 21st 2012 in Skopje, Macedonia, the Secretary of the South East European Heritage Network, will take part in the Celebration event of the World Day of Cultural Diversity. The event is organized by the UNESCO Venice Office (its Representative Office in Macedonia) and the UN Joint Programme to Enhance Inter-Ethnic Dialogue and Collaboration. http://www.seeheritage.org/index.php



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I am glad that there is common page like SEEH above, coz only culture can dismantle the borders in south east europe specially mental ones like pampered childish possessivity of history or culture, only sharing can unveil true sound and colors of this region for start at least virtually and tomorrow maybe in united europe actually, proccess that is pushed by artists like Todor Proeski [1][2][3] who had succeed in unifying young people from ex-yu republics in today's western balkan countries after last balkan wars in 90's    
PENINSULAR BREАKFAST
...
who identifies and who determines belonging to something? As often happens, we all look for artistic production which deals with these questions. And most often, we find a great number of its products. Then we represent them. And we say: „This is representation of identity, or this is proof of belonging to something.„ But is it always so? Is it that simple? All one can say about this is that, in effect, it only offers an „image” which is to be confirmed elsewhere, by some other subject or institution
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what is important is not the matter of the presence of identity and belonging in art/artistic practices and works, but the matter of who determines and verifies those and how
...
what art or what kind of art is presented in Europe as coming from the Balkans (or south-eastern Europe or western Balkans). And is this the only art being created in the Balkans? Are those the only themes of Balkan artists? Finally, who determines the theme of identity (which always boils down to the sense of national, nationalist identity) and who determines belonging in accordance with what
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„peninsular breakfast” as term is neither continental nor insular, it is neither French nor English, it is not only Macedonian (Balkan), Its use as a metaphor refers to every situation in which the subject is dependent on the other for determination and confirmation.
http://www.mirage.com.mk/tekst.asp?lang=eng&tekst=117&str=4
sadly in the balkans is practiced ethnocentric instead of civic nationalism, because of as young independent state we are still dinied or refuted by our neighbors, because of we are struggling to justify our existence, because of generally all balkan nations are even spiritually divided although most of the peninsula is from same christian denomination, everybody has own national church instead of one united orthodox church as open orthodox communion... that superimposition will colapse when all balkan nations will get rid of own etnofiletism, which afterwards will lead to acclaiming right to Republic of Macedonia to call itself as its people want it, privilege that should and has everybody that live on this peninsula! this strange aspect of our life is best presented in the documentary A Name Is A Name which speaks about paradox like the name dispute between two(tomorrow maybe three) neighbors that its not enough we have adjective as Republic for someones exaggerated score politics... this just points out why still exists terms like balkanization i.e. if it's difficult to easily unite those with same or similar background, what to say then for those with differeces!? despite all unlike mostly preferred ethnocentrism on the balkans, Macedonia is true multicultural and strongly tolerant place, nevertheless low GDP or high uneiployment (factor mellow mood mentality) that at least can be optimistically seen as insurance for most creative rurality and maintaining long time after culturaly safe envinronment



even though new democracy Macedonia is pioneer in constructive legalism i.e. officially in our constitution there are no minoryties only nations, not one or two everybody are recognized as nation, refreshing move in mostly egocentric europe that is considered as future model for multiculturalism in eu, also e.g. Skopje is only city in europe where christians and muslims still live together side by side accepting own differences like oriental music assemble that eats burek in the morning and baklava in the evening, normally turlitava and shopska for lunch... so our nationalism ends with loving our own(and common) rather than imposing it to others, but politics and media twisted this to pride instead of love while struggling to won some ephemeral elections thus ruining for ages builted multi-ethnic coexistence    
nationalism was more pronounced amid politicians than the masses, masses don't want conflict, even while imposed and controled conflict went on decade ago, there was no crisis point, this is a sign that multi-ethnic sentiments are already inbuilt in Macedonia, which has always been multiethnic.
Branislav Sarkanjac, a professor in philosophy, wrote this book Komsi Kapicik, it's a Turkish term and it means a small neighboring door, in earlier times each house in Macedonia was separated from the other with a wall that had a door in it - kapijik.

in Macedonia, these doors were often between two religions, too, so it Komsi kapicik became traditional Macedonian logic of co-existence. And it would last another 2000 years if politicians don't set it afire

today we are trying to maintein open these passages mostly through culture, and best way for that is as allways with art e.g. movies like Before The Rain from Milco Mancevski as '90s portret of balkan tragedies awarded with the Golden Lion for the powerful cinematic experience filled with gorgeous views and poignant tales, or the War Is Over from Mitko Panov first Macedonian state-funded film that was shot in Albanian language, or songs like Raise Up Your Hand from Kiril Dzajkovski or bands like Bla Bla Bla that breaks stereotypes and understand multiculturalism as way of life instead just as 'exclaimed intention' as such usually observed by our naturalized analysts [1][2][3]  

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Enlightening Simple portrait from jAnna - http://www.goldenline.pl/forum/379752/macedonia
http://www.macedonialovesyou.com
Strategies to bring EU close to the Macedonia - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdLjbT-h9pw&t=28s




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because at the same time elusive, covert and obvious crossroad, one can easily find way in or way out of Macedonia, only irony is that today routes are slowed down by nowadays borders and strife funding of pan-european corridors VIII which is still local and X that is completed but needs improvements in railway part, hopefully to rise train travel time til 2020 to 180km/h

except modern roads, we are also part of ancient paths like roman Via Egnatia http://www.gammathetaupsilon.org/the-geographical-bulletin/1970s/volume05/article3.pdf that was older retraced route [1]

http://www.viaegnatiafoundation.eu/ [1][2]   




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http://www.raileurope.com/europe-travel-guide/macedonia/map.html [1]
The first railway on the Balkans was the railway between Salonica and Skopje, built in the 19th century. [1][2]
The railway network of Macedonia comprises 925 kilometers of tracks, of which 315 km are electrified. [1][2]
More than 2.6 million passengers use the services of Macedonian railways each year, and over 5 million tons of goods are transported by their means.
Macedonia's limited rail network means that it's not a country for 24/7 train travel, but the Bitola to Skopje line allows the possibility of a break from road travel, with the bonus of some attractive scenery along the way, passing through Pelagonia Plain. Leaving the tobacco fields of Prilep behind, the line heads past the fortress of Markovi Kuli into the mountains of central Macedonia. From the Babuna Valley you may catch a glimpse of the boulder slope of Solunska Glava, the highest peak in the heart of the republic. The main Prilep-Veles road follows a different route far to the east, and the villages along this part of the rail-line feel quite isolated. At Veles the mountains are left behind and the track follows the Vardar River to Skopje.
There are four trains daily between Skopje and Bitola (3.5 hours), but depending on the time of year only two or three during daylight hours. http://www.balkanology.com/overview/article_scenicrailways.html

beside Bitola-Skopje also scenic tour is Skopje-Kicevo in the past til Ohrid (maybe in future til and around Ohrid), hopefully with Steam Train on it! in 2015 is scheduled for completion the route from Skopye to Sofiya, one more to be added to the railway scenery in the country... and for now with unique expirience reserved still for eastern europe you can open windows!
          




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Sleep-dream inception Skopje 1964 - http://www.build.mk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=303&PID=106906#106906 [1][2]

.                                                            meteo, Fortress, mob, Church, central bank
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Day-dream culmination Skopje 2014 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=iybmt-iLysU [1][2][3">/u">]  constructions started in 2010, scheduled to be completed in 2014 as unconscious facelift-gift for the 50th anniversary of UN engaged city reconstruction after disastrous Skopje earthquake in '63, actually this is impetuous urban regeneration that attempts to put too cheerful layer to the failed brutalization from the past, among other it can be seen as link between all urban layers(old/new/clean/kitsch) that exist in the town...




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There are some 10,000 kilometers of roads, half of them asphalted, from which 1000 km are main routes. A modern highway 176 km in length, extends from Macedonia's northern to its southern border [1] The road system carries over 35 million passengers and about 7 million tons of goods.
The route from Prespa to Ohrid via Mountain Galichica in southwest Macedonia was recommended by the world’s leading business magazine Forbes as one of the top 20 scenic drives in Europe. The route is along narrow, windy roads, that take you past apple orchards and a bird sanctuary round Lake Prespa [1][2][3], and then up into the Galichica Mountain, and through the high Livada Pass. A short walk up a nearby hill here offers views of both lakes, Prespa and Ohrid, simultaneously. http://www.forbes.com/2008/01/31/cars-drives-europe-forbeslife-cx_vr_0131drives_slide_11.html


for precise navigation use AdriaRoute or mobile GPS for general



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Transport - http://www.lonelyplanet.com/macedonia/transport/getting-around one can choose common options like taxi, bus or train-tram, for now with most reasonable prices in europe, or try some scenic approach [1][2][3] that in the capital is most appropriate with the JSP city-bus fleet of retro double-deckers [1][2][3][4][5] also there is always option for renting some oldtimer for city-cruising especially in small towns or villages (just ask for zastava 750/yugo/101, fiat 126/124/1300, reno 4, citroen dyane, trabant, buba or moskvich) even cheaper option than the standard rent-a-car, but without insurance though this is outstanding way of sensing the spirit of the place e.g. in Skopje where time didnt stop with '62 flood or '63 earthquake, but stopped in the transitional '90s as it has stood in the next clip from 1993

It’s generally a good idea to find taxi either by phoning a well known company (or having your host or hotel do so), or locating a cab in a visible taxi rank. Avoid lone cabs, and especially avoid taxi drivers soliciting tourists at bus or train stations. [1][2][3]

http://www.nationaldrivesafe.com/macedonia-driving-summary

Traffic regulations in Macedonia

- right-hand traffic.

- Speed ​​limits
in the local area: 50-60 km/h
regional routes for motorcycle and car: 80/100 km/h
highway: 120 km/h for motorcycles and cars, all the other vehicles on all roads 80 km/h (except for trucks with trailers or lorries over 7.5 tonnes and buses that transport children: 70 km/h)
tourist Tip: Keep strictly to the speed limits! Especially in the summer months can be expected with continuous radar control.

- Parental Control
Children under 12 must be transported in the back seat.

- Light during the day
Year-round mandatory for all motor vehicles.
tourist Tip: If you want to be on the safe side, prefer low beam lights during the day, as daytime running lights are sometimes tolerated.

- Requirement to carry
In addition to be carried association package, warning triangle and safety vest, also must have a Replacement Lamp Kit(except for Xenon or LED lights). Furthermore, bring a second warning triangle for trailer, also tow rope was required til year ago. On the subject of safety vest : Each person entering the road or the verge of setting up the breakdown triangle, must wear a safety vest.

- Alcohol limit
0.5 parts per thousand (0.0 per thousand for professional drivers)

- Mobile phone while driving
Allowed only by using a speakerphone.

- Winter Equipment
In the period from 15 November to 15 March, all vehicles must have:
* Radial tires on all 4 wheels and winter tires on the drive wheels
* Winter tires must have a minimum tread depth of 4 mm
* When driving with summer tires in this period, snow chains must be carried in the vehicle and pulled at the request of the police.
* Bus and truck drivers must carry a snow shovel.

- Use of studded tires is prohibited.

- Penalties for traffic offences - http://www.build.mk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=448&PID=109983#109983




http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD8D1890153D1E042 [1][2]

Gas Stations in Skopje - http://www.4sqstat.com/skopje/map?category_id=4bf58dd8d48988d113951735




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Macedonian Cuisine - what to say except, Nazdravye (to your health) http://tasteofmacedonia.com [1][2][3][4][5], just watch out - overeating is common although macedonian cuisine is not too heavy in its raw traditional form, it could be said that is rajasic, still have in mind that today meals are prepared as too spicy, fatty and roux, on top all of this extra loaded by the Macedonian Sun, normally that leads to soulful satiation on everybody's satisfaction!
Macedonia has a long and praised tradition of culinary delights. Over the centuries, many civilizations have enjoyed the produce of its fertile soil.
Having avoided negative influences of urbanization, Macedonia remains the agricultural heartland of the Balkans, filled with a wonderful variety of foodstuffs native to both Mediterranean and Central European climates.
In fact, few countries as small as Macedonia can offer such variety of products including everything from citrus fruits, grapes and hazelnuts to tobacco, rice and mountain teas.

- Appetizers ...as a dairy producer Macedonia is well known for its cheeses: soft white cheese Sirenje [1][2][3] similar to Greek Feta; yellow cheese Kashkaval [1][2][3], similar to Italian Locatello Romano; also is known for its yoghurt and milk, coz every Macedonian village offers unique and tasty local varieties.

- Pastry ...try Banitsa aka Maznik a filo pastry, Gjomleze aka Mlechnik a milk soaked pies, Zelnik a pastry very similar to banitsa but the difference is the filo and it's thicker, Pastrmayliya a sort of pizza topped with meat and eggs...

- Salads ...Ajvar the national sauce made from ground sweet red peppers, Makalo roasted peppers with garlic, Malidjano grounded eggplant with garlic and mayo, famous Shopska Salata made of sliced tomato, cucumber and onion, topped with shredded soft white cheese, Taratur sour yogurt with cucumber, Tikvichki cold zuchinni, etc.

all three above are used as Meze an aperitif snack, that lately in our restaurants is offered as Daska wooden plate with salads (heavy d'oeuvres), usually goes few for table bottledivers and one more for the road... finally to stimulate appetite, in the beginning of the meal take Feferonki pickled peperoncini - a balkan chilly full of capsaicin



- Soups ...classic as elsewhere but typical are stew-like soups such Ribya Chorba(fish) and Shkembe Chorba

- Main Meals ...try Macedonian dishes like Kukurek slung or chopped lamb tripe i.e. famous macedonian Lumb in million ways, polneti Modri Patlidjani aka Aman Bayaldi a vegan filled eggplants similar to Polneti Piperki stuffed capsicum usually filled with rice or rice with meat, same principle is with Sarma just the filo is warped with leaves of grape, cabbage or chard, Selsko Meso chicken or pork chops with champignon mushrooms in a rich brown gravy, Tavche Gravche baked beans, Turlitava meal counterpart of shopska salad that is macedonian vegetable stew mix of bamya+garlic+onion+potato+plums+squash+tomato, the same meal filled with layers of ground beef or pork is called Musaka, there is also various kinds of grill or roast meat among whom most famous is Sharska Pleskavica but if you ask me Kyofte is better although is ground meat pate (for vegans is made from zuchinni) and is more similar or can be compared to Kebap... also dont miss fish delicacy like Cironki from Prespa, Krap from Prespa or Tikves, or Pastrmka from Ohrid, etc., most of this meals are easily prepared by any housewife here, but today this privilege has any cook elsewhere [1][2][3]   

- Desserts and Drinks ...ask for traditional deserts like sweet pastry Ravania, Gurabia or Pitulitsa, but also puddings like the antique Rechel made from grape, honey and pistachio or Sutliyash the oriental rice desert, also try the macedonian apple pie that is represented as Pita or Tikvarnik which is filled with pumpkin pate, nevertheless raw macedonian fruits [1][2][3] is what you must taste... as rule in the begging or in the end, as greeting there is turkish coffee that when is sweetened with honey is becoming macedonian and always served with Lokum gel from starch and sugar, or sweetscakes like the world-famous Baklava, Tulumba or Alva last one flour-based cookie with sugar or honey... instead coffee often are served traditional juices from Bozel(elderberry), Borovnica(blueberry) or Vishna(cherry), that regularly goes with Sweet Fig [1][2] and Berry Jams [1][2] or Honey [1][2]... last but not least, to speed up digestion, in the end of the meal take one cup of carbonated soda like the famous macedonian soft drink Gazoza(pear flavor) or the famous mineral water Pelisterka...

although there are still street hawkers who sells juice, candy and icecream, its a pity that there are no more specialized kiosks for juices and soda known as Limunadzilnitsi that are still among my cache of childhood memories notably the one named Vardar that was near the same river in the capital... today fruit juices are sold together with the famous sweet beverage Boza(fermented wheat) mostly in confectionery shops countrywide... instead coffe or juice more common as greeting drink in muslim communities as elsewhere is Turkish Tea and in some cases Salep a pudding-like beverage that is similar to Sutliyash, both bestrewed with cinnamon...

Macedonian cuisine combines mediterranean traditions, influenced largely by oriental tastes that prevailed during long centuries of ottoman rule. Some specialties, salads such Pindzur peppers cream salad or Pivtiya aka Pacha a cold cut brawn, a dishes like the grilled ground beef Kebap and the omnipresent pastry Burek a flaky sort of pie filled with ham, beef, cheese, spinach or mix of them, or Gevrek a circular boiled and baked croissant with sesame seeds... all of them characteristic of the Balkan cuisine in general!





Wines of MAcedonia - http://winesofmacedonia.mk/west-region/ [1] [2][3][4][5]
Wine has played a central role in Macedonia at least since ancient times, when the ruling emperors favored its grapes. Thanks to an abundance of sunshine, Mediterranean and continental breezes and rich rocky soil, wine grapes thrive in Macedonia. They are so ubiquitous that many families make their own stash. St. Trifun, the patron saint of wine and winemaking, is celebrated on Feb. 14, when growers start pruning their vines [1] that in a way is beginning of wine festivals through the year among whom oldest and largest is the one in Kavadarci and specific but less mardigras is the one in Skopje http://www.vinoskop.com... when toasting have in mind the tradition that you taste, archaeological evidence of wine production in Europe is 6500 years ago verified by broken shoots from Macedonia [2], drawings of grapes and grapevine have been found carved in stone in the archaeological places Negotino and Kavadarci, this tradition continued through rule of ancient macedonians, slavs and later ottomans up untill today, MW were mostly exported in Europe, it is known that it has been exported in the 19th century to France, this is picturesque described in the famous Macedonian song Biljana platno beleshe...
our wine was also well-known in ex-yu, where two-thirds of the total wine production of Yugoslavia belonged to Macedonia, then 28,5ha in Macedonia were under grape vines and export profit was around 30 mil. euros a year [3] while today we have 23ha of vineyards, with an annual production of 150 million liters and exports of 120 million liters of wine... Macedonia by wine export was twelfth worldwide in 2008, according to the International Association of winemakers (OEM), the bulk of exports, 70 percent is placed on the German market as draught wine, and the remaining quantities of wine are exported as bottled wine mainly in Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, Croatia and small quantities in Poland [4], but the best is kept home and is celebrate with songs like Dafino vino crveno, Nalei nalei nalei, Vino mi se pie, Aide vino piam, i Aide pak vino piam, Vino piam em rakia, Turi maiko turi...
as a general rule, stick to Macedonian wines which are mostly inexpensive but with good value, particularly the red wines from the southern wine-growing region of Tikves. And I heartily recommend Skopsko, the local lager... [5]
Some of the most popular indigenous Macedonian varieties include:
- Vranec – by far the most popular red wine among Macedonians, popular brands: Tga za Yug from Tikves, Imperator from Bovin, Vilarov from Stobi, Bucephall from Fonko, and inexpensive famous Vitach, appropriate with meat, cheese, tomato salads etc.
- Stanushina – indigious to Macedonia, producing uniquely Macedonian wines and are a “must try” for any visitor, popular brands: Macedonian Girl from Popova Kula, Kavadarka from Tikvesh or Rose from Popov, appropriate with green salads or lite sweets like puddings
- Temyanika – one of the most popular white wines in Macedonia (with bozel), popular brands: Temjanika from Kamnik, Muskat from Skovin or Imako, appropriate with fish, white meats, soft cheese and all deserts
...
also dont pass up the wines from balkan varieties, processed in the local wineries, varieties such Kratosiya, Prokupec, Skadarka, Zilavka or Smederevka, the last one is mostly used for the macedonian liqueur Mastika a spirit flavored with aniseed and mint similar to Vodka... spirits here, commonly called Rakiya as zolta rakiya(colored) or bela rakiya(white), made from all grape varieties, are famous worldwide as best homemade ethanols, but also there are commercial names like the macedonian brandies, the awarded Antika 5, Grkov vinyak or Traikovsky brandy that is in the base of mountain Kozuf famous for the Mine of Alshar... Tip: alcohol can harm your health if you dont balance between our illuminated prices and your unlearned appetite [1][2][3][4][5]
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http://www.macedoniawinetours.com/mkvarities.html [1][2]


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already mentioned above, the mineral water Pelisterka is as Foltin from the same town of Bitola, the south part of the republic, where is bottled in the base of Baba mountain that after its highest peak is widely known as Pelister, from whom is named Pelisterka... today Macedonia has 16 brands of bottled water, among whom Inaqua is saltiest and Ilina is sweetest mineral water, but still Pelisterka rulz... as mountain region Macedonia is rich of fresh water, that is more enticing when it is tasted right from its springs, waterfalls and rivers http://www.build.mk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1373 [1]



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http://www.aqueductskopje.net/   these are The Remains of Skopski Aquaduct built in VI c. by Justinian I as water supply system for his hometown, that were in use til XVIII century... it is one of the three largest in western balkan [1], 10km in length, from which today after the world wars and '63 earthquake, remained only 400m for wandering visitors to scratch some dust for home blessing what actually its not rarely coz our Aquaduct is left as some forgotten tourist bastard its not animated even for skopyans to jay the day on coffee table normally they have the duct to hope on thus legal~wild~archeo~openair~joint for all (without tickets too) so try pull some acoustic instrument with You (or maybe You'll find it there) and try the flow and the breeze on that 400m memory of our local late antiquity I'll say coz erected by Tsars Will its more precious than any other You'll touch in this valley of eternal memories In 1669 the traveler Dr. Brown has noted that the Aqueduct is a wonderful old object, which brings a great respect to Skopje, historians also quoted the famous chronic from the period of Justinian Procopius, who notes that it was build between 527-565 AD.

its worthy to be noted that sKo(no)pje was and still is blessed, with the one of the cleanest tap water in the country, that is drawn from the spring Rasche near mountain SCG north of the town, where is located the spring Lav(lion) in village Gluvo, which fresh water was supplied to old Scupi via the Aqueduct... in this village hade been found the first local mummified body, that recklessly had been left to decay, but as cold comfort there are few other found across the mounStain [1][2] that means it was popular place even in early antiquity, and its not coincidence that Justinian choose exactly this place for water supply, although there are more closest springs like Koritishte near the cave Vrelo in the cAnyon Matka, nevertheless it should be taken into consideration that both places, SCG and Matka, were considered as Holy in the middle ages, settled with over 30 Monasteries in each One, because of what it were broadly known as Small Mount Athos, though I am still in doubt if this epithet was for both, one of them or whole of Skopski Region, yep whole ... so be clever dont act stupid when stroll around it can ping back causality pong that maybe You are not prepared to dealt with eg. ex'domesticated but now'wild wandering dogs to catch You for a thumb or an head!, by default case if karma mirroring hit the bell, even more cause we've put a lock on our Metropolitan Dog Residence for all strayed local dogs so now whole City is theirs freedom house that yeah can bite without warning if things get inbetween the lines ...

so unlike today, in Antiquity supplying Mountain Water to dowNtowN was quite original, as in metaphysical so as in its physical approach, except maybe the bottling in glass that was and still is common not so unique thing!, still in modern Macedonia most of the tap water is from one of the cleanest mountain springs in EU, and generally drinking water in whole Macedonia is prime, in some areas equivalent to mineral water...
tap drinking water in Macedonia is safe for the average traveller. If you are one of those fussy types, who have never allowed their stomach to harden to foreign bacteria, then drink the ubiquitous bottled water, and avoid drinking from mountain streams and water fountains. Water fountains in towns are usually from the same source as tap water and therefore safe. [1]
btw be super clever and Always Bless The Water if want to get most from it [3][3][3][3][4]    


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best way to see Macedonia is by Paraglider, Hangglider or Glider, normaly in tandem til one meet the winds and place!
Macedonia has dozen flying sites that are regular hosts of balkan, european or world cup's in paragliding...
and although aerial sightseeing is available in all spatial regions [1], still best sites for this kind of exploration are regions of Pelagoniya[1][2][3] and Polog[1][2][3], and for most skilled maybe it would be challenge flyover between skopye and ohrid, only once hovered with paraglider by the pilot from the glider-link above... however, whatever site or approach is chosen always consult someone http://www.vfm.org.mk/en_clubs.html [1][2][3]...

if not for flying, there is always room for Speedriding in our modest but unique ski resorts like Kopanki on Mount Pelister, Galichitsa and Golak, Smrdliva Voda on Mt. Kozuf, Stanich on Mt. Bushava, Mavrovo on Mt. Bistra, Ponikva on Mt. Osogovo or Popova Shapka on Mt. Shar, the last one with the famous downhill/super-g track Tseripashina with 800m vertical drop and 3,16km course length, where have been held for 40 years the FIS Sharplaninski Cup and where are located most profuse hiking routes in the country http://sharamountainguide.com.mk/en/ [1]...

the Shar mountain is among highest in Macedonia and native place of the eponymous dog Sharplaninets [1][2][3][4][5][6][7] macedonian shepherd dog, today featured on 1 denar coins and 2011 post stamps, it was brought up in ancient times and it was Alexander's personal guard-dog known as Peritas, his favourite pet beside the horse Bucephal... also Shar mountain is considered as europe's most butterfly diversified place, incredibly populated with 147 butterfly species, even though bio-tour operators prefer easily reachable sites like mount Galichitsa
   


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  Quote Max Quote  Post ReplyReply #35 Posted: 06-Jun-2012 at 23:00

for the wingless tourists there is miraculuous comfort through bird watching accros the country! Macedonia is abundant with birds [1][2][3][4][5] and bird watching is becoming more popular tourist attraction, that is mostly organised by BSPSM or local operators mostly on Prespa and Tikvesh Lake where are located the largest strict natural reserves [1][2][3] or alternatively can be part of european and national projects for birds studying with MES, although there is always good organized but expensive multi-country birdwatching [1], and in the end if this looks too complicated, there is always casual way to enjoy in birds medley, particularly on the shores of lake Ohrid where can be seen white gulls, sometimes rose gulls, pelicans, cormorants, swans, gooses, ducks...



in this area fascination with birds and flying is old as time, birds are depicted on figurines from neolith till nowadays, e.g. the one found in village Porodin near Bitola 6.500BC [1] or Icarus from Ohrid 200BC [1], later in middle ages this practice is characteristic for church frescoes, icons and carvings, or through traditional songs [1][2][3], lately on money and stamps [1][2][3] and maybe tomorrow as Winged Lion (not griffin) on our coa-emblem, because the Falcon along with the Lion are considered traditionally as macedonian symbols... this connection except with figurines, zography and songs, is also acclaimed by the Macedonian male names, from antiquity as Hierax and today as Sokol, that are native names for Falcon... also this could be compromise for Macedonian Albanians which symbol is eagle, thus symbolically finding common ground instead difference... in past centuries it was popular believe that the eagle as symbol is also our tradition recognized through byzantine two-headed eagle motifs, that can be mostly found on church emblems, but falsely accepted this is dualistic emblem of the komnenos dinasty from byzant, that even hadnt been substitution for the one-headed roman eagle, because after Constantine the Great recognized Christianity as state religion of newly founded east empire only the Cross was state symbol up until komnenos and palaiolog dynasties that accepted western heraldic practices. few centuries later after the byzant fall this symbol as royal stamp or allegiance to byzant tradion, was accepted by the orthodox church and further by balkan kings that had identified themselves as byzantine inheritors as it was e.g. Skenderbey, Karadjordjevich, Njegosh i.e. today Albania, Serbia, Crna Gora... nevertheless eagle is also native symbol and in antiquity was used as well as it was case with the falcon, but still in hunting hawk was main bird as it is today


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  Quote Max Quote  Post ReplyReply #36 Posted: 08-Jun-2012 at 12:13

it must be noted that as standardized codex, heraldry in the past was untypical for Macedonia, although there are many coats made abroad drowned from local symbolism [1][2][3]

yet even today we are not running for western heraldry, that is evident by the latest national emblem, which is landscape composition [1][2] surrounded by domestic plants as macedonian poppy and tobacco plus cotton and wheat, cultivars by whom we were and still are famous for (before and after industrial revolution) [3] the grape probably had bad year then so it was left-out, this makes our emblem still socialistic [4] but today without the star, solely original along with other municipal coats [5]

it is also rarest example of insignia in the world, that had been punked for few years in continuity, as fart sketch in the political cartoon show Ednooki (cyclops)[1][2][3] aired on few national tv's in the past years as spitting image gig, normally this was not accepted as offensive expression by the audience - first coz as nation we are cheerful mellow mooders - second the show is public airduct and third it is produced by an clever kontrabanda [1][2][3] early in SRMa this calming role of mass brain-boggled massage was pushed by magazine the omnipopular Osten (goad) today turned to its roots again a world cartoon gallery and contest which for 40 years is held in Skopje [1][2][3] and had probably influenced the strip-art community in the country [4] which members e.g. are co-creators of ednooki [5] altho more expresed as web than tv artists, maybe coz net saves more time while pays same, even more if we are bombed by turkish soap stars



maybe all of this has affected the creativity of local authorities, who had uniquely sewed up the local boundaries that have been introduced in 2004 e.g. skopje has shape of butterfly and skopye region shape of human heart, even abstractly the capital is spreading and pumping our existence, in both cases truly symbolical shapes of our cultural and economical state in the country...
maybe tomorrow as support to the skopye'14 revival, authorities will redraw some new silhouette e.g. the forgotten sharko Peritas who didnt get chance to climb beside Alex and Bukefal, that can be marked to the city center map, or maybe his analogy should be left to the state borders...

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country like ours, its best to be seen as place where literally culture is shaping the landscape, even virtually as thematic map, timeline or connectivity-line, on which will be presented some local life aspects i.e. hip-hop in Macedonia that speeds up our forgetfulness of our true cultural genes, still it would be lesser damage if this was established as freedom of speech instead freedom of lust, in what has turned rap music today, in our idiom gumeni bomboni (jellybeans), something that early was rather exception than a rule! its pity that there are no more labels like PNGT from whom in'90s has emerged bands like Chista Okolina or SAF followed later by Mosaique



although good, in present age emerged gmo-labels like Zort, Toksikologia, DNS, Arena, Oshav,
Shuriken, SVP, Gnasni Deca, Zad Agolot... it would be ideal if most of them forget the meaningless brainstorming, or this newscool mediocre as contagious form of life, can end as just another popular music that will never outrun its CHI teachers! still hip hop is not so amortized way of life here, as is our domestic turbofolk and its modern counterpart the electronic music, coz the folk shund and tecno shunt in '90s turned the capital in 24/7 party zone, that as such become popular world-wide, thus opening doors for lot of dope, nonsense and decadence, like it were some careless times of some world war then aftermat of the cold one, but with worst consequences for the youth even larger than the '63 earthquake!, but with worst consequences for the youth than the '63 earthquake! after the independence and transitional introversion backed by work idea-less, but most of all SE mentality, 24/7 partying became a sorrow-healer for the masses]
luckily this is not the case anymore coz two reasons, first in 2002 Radio Bemba spreaded here concious and positive freedom sound (AAA), second in 2003 homeboys from Vlada (goverment) restricted liberated working hours of cafe-bars to 23h and night-clubs til 03h, also in 2007 G usher rigorous fiscal policy thus improving loyal concurrence, so now city life emphasizes the idea of celebrations and festivals over minningles hangout, although this revoked the dullness of street-drinking, local gatherings or rat-race habits, on which V-homeboys strike back with european laws as time-limited public sell of alcohol til 19h, and prohibited drinking in public places...





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  Quote Max Quote  Post ReplyReply #38 Posted: 13-Jun-2012 at 23:00

if ur not coming to balkans as cultural tourist, as is sugested in 5th post early, and came only for o'ti'um, then ur missing the best opportunity for contemplative tour of life! its shame that hosts, particularly tour operators, although have art excursions to arch.sites,sacral places,monuments etc., they dont give opportunity to the guest for direct cultural if not spiritual experience (national or religious feasts), this is left as improvised step in the programs, thats ok only for young people!? there are some offers like Galicka Svadba but those are too artificial events that almost looks as exponat than real wedding, still traditional if not else, but there are no offers for true fests, as is for example Ilinden [1][2][3] that is both cultural and spiritual feast, which lacks only better flower-fireworks on the balconies...
this approach it would be even more questionable in future coz of constant economic and consumeristic rush, that influence our stumbling upon world globalization, long process by whom we were, and still are, taken as voluntary hostages [1][2][3], thats why our cultural fields -from day to day - more and more- are becoming freedomless savannas, quite simply explained in the song our Afrika from sk-ska band Superhiks or cheerfully stressed by sk-o'regō band Kanon in its song ait izLezi, people get out of rat-race mediocre trap! definitely best portrayed by belgrade PiBiK in O'kako that as greeting is singed for, in and on macedonia/n...
...although our society is not too technocratic, while chasing EA integrations it is becoming more and more like it, as extra formal and less actual commune, if could be said communa at all, coz we live so separate that maybe only city plumbing is left for accidental intercourse [1][2] or eventually through street shoe cleaners which finally got its own monument located on the 1920 skopje korzo



isnt something missing in this picture? people, no one notices or cares that should have happy shiny shoes, so in a way we are also tourists in our own country, seeking for knowledge and experience that we watch how its passing by, although not able to truly see it, our attention in transition have been trained to focus on tele-vision gaining self respect from tv consumption, habits that position us 2nd place in europe! so with closed windows we have become forgetful for regeneration and sharing of our local traditions, and living in a box became our daily reality, instead the opposite a beyond the box true reality that is the invisible world behind this material world who gives substance and meaning to our life! shamely Most of us had forget to sing, play and dance macedonian motifs, that is even more terrible when we find our self talking with foreigners that have this ability, and start arguing that We all know the path but We have better things on mind like salsa or katange or maybe frappe of both! that’s why we need constant refresh, about how much to abandon from the material to gain in spiritual, if we want to keep live and fresh our local watermark, yet as most of humanity today we are also blinded coz inability to interchange this paradigm, thus not recognizing why, what and who is who in this age of possessive individualism!


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  Quote Max Quote  Post ReplyReply #39 Posted: 15-Jun-2012 at 13:06
Skopje as whole balkan is Body Without Consequences [1][2] although most of the guests observe it as cause for consequences [1][2], actually how foreigners look at us is more media spin than the real picture, they expect eider eastern or western society, but what they meet is "go-with-the-flow" mentality, crossroad where all is mingled in one, east and west + north and south i.e. compatible with the slavic meridian + south-europen parallel! simply this place cannot be molded in someones compas and instantly trowed to the passing hiker, its place with own compas that can be found mostly in the sunny songs, music, dances, food, stories, language, dialects, also along with orthodox church singing or its modern interpretations [1][2][3] that are strangely catchy even for us who are born here... still for those who are lazy or lost there is always some community advice http://www.mladiinfo.com/2010/08/25/my-dos-and-donts-for-Skopje/ [1][2][3] or foreign video-card though



as long as I can remember, every morning there was radio-active jingle that triggered every happy day in the city of skopye, city that was regularly refreshed only by city-praise songs [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11] (last one remix of one of the 40 traditional songs for skopje), coz it was almost hardly done in some other way, definitly as result of the urban brutalization that stoled old skopye mood after the quake, town that at the end of 19th c. had poppulation of 30k, then three times smoller than old Bitola for example, although those two towns along with Salonica were largest cities back then in Macedonia while it was under otoman rule, the first and the last kept growing while Bitola was wiped out by mistake in ww-II but mostly through three years of constant bombardment in ww-I coz it was gate to the forgotten Macedonian front [1][2], it is curiosity that even today there is some amount of leftover munition that is regularly digged through some reconstructions or excavations, as it was finding of 80kg forgotten dynamite in the skopye stone bridge or 31 unexploded grenades in bitola's korzo, so have in mind that ur avanturist while walking in largest macedonian towns, but dont worry its not so dangerous situation as is e.g. minefield or bombshell leftovers form recent wars in ex-yu republics, happly then we were oasis of peace that today became oasis of controled anarchy as on political so as on cultural fields, probably this is mainly coz we are becoming consumeristic egocentrics which fuel is shiny advertising!? this could be also said for this tread, if is observed as pamphlet and not as someones storytelling...

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above oasis article the one before last link, is little over-exagerated although in many aspects true, still its posted decade ago, when we were at the beginning of the end of posttitoistic transition that almost tear apart the country in all aspects, from economy through politics till culture ending with instructed conflict! it was time of hedonistic apathy that in '90s was mostly amortized by western carrots like new tv's, freedom of speech, opportunity for civil society, crossborder collaboration, chance for own business or idealism, times when we were happy if someone got brand new doc martens... and then came along cellulars, playstation and internet, that immediately introduced the feeling of global village where normally everybody got lost, specially the mirc generations that today become allround facebook addictives! yet I miss the pager period of my life, when you'l get a message on which werent obligated to respond not loosing own integrity!

back to the point, today Macedonia is far away from 90's regional instability, corruption or crime, this is also confirmed from foreign authorities [1][2][3], today Macedonia is more safest and equipped than many european countries taken perceptually, even tho we dont have their standards, maybe coz disparity between the reach and the poor is not so dramatic as is elsewhere, so we rarely fall in despair having more empathy that envy among citizens! maybe we are not in temptation coz our billionaire are immigrants [1][2] and the rest of wealthy Macedonians are not more than local-size entrepreneurs [3] or maybe we are encouraged by modest entrepreneurs that as artists bring confidence in our society in a more normal way than any local sultan's candy-store e.g. work of the animation studio fx3x [1][2][3], that along with mikrosam are potentially most perspective private companies, normally if they continue to invest further like mikrosam in its hi-tech, but also if dont forget on their predecessors like vardar-film or euro-composit, as all of us remembers and learn from own tradition... maybe this sounds like cheap advertising, but still for us another big success of common people for now in small country, tomorrow maybe in larger like eu, this points out to our potential that needs more manufactured outsourcing and nlp management, in mean time we must stay focused just to ensure maximum support from our older brothers...



when it comes to tourism we are not place for elite one coz we are reachable place available to common people, as should be place where Christianity blossom, but mostly as hidden gem instead of popular bijoutery, truly authentic as is whole balkan! and its better to stay like this! on other hand active and mass tourism like its practiced on seashores, will make us to become minority in our own country of 2 mil. thus our tradition it could completely fade away, or in best case this can happen with our tranquility and wilderness, pumping up lots of garbage and decadence!
definitely cultural direction in tourism can be achived only if we live for it i.e. in it, with consciousness for our own potential, just we need to speed up some approaches immediately e.g. our behavior to the guests which although among citizens is on distinctive level yet among salesman is lacking the needed politeness and hospitality, that lately is corrected by public guerrilla campaigns http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/macedonian-minister-defends-controversial-ads [1]

...independent and hard working people with ancient roots, that in titoism became significantly lazy-clever as it was itar peyo in the middle ages, people that today are keen to become western vassal heroes similar as in midle ages was krale marko to turks, are people that tomorrow may become again truly free and self-sufficient, sharing own beauty only to those that truly needed it, coz its sin to cast the pearls in front every wanderlust nomad, though dont take me seriously I'm only thinking aloud about my fears for world that reach strange crossroad [1]...       



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