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  Quote +Protagorist Quote  Post ReplyReply #141 Posted: 18-Sep-2014 at 18:31

Ararat, Kula & Pony - Skopyes AK48 - were 3 legendary urban-guerrilla coffee-shops of Skopye that once artly have been holding for hostage this town - surrounded and hooked by them from three sides, they were most independent places in Skopye and among first in whole country, despite this whole city was shroomed with similar cafes!
but i'll underline that as much inventive atmosphere have offered these places, for me Tea-chai-shops were far better, among them the oldest (stuffed with artistic mood by Zero in the end of 80's) and which stil exist is known as Galery7 chaiing at the end of the old-bazaar.. its status later in 90's was succeed seven streets further by Bagdad-cafe, from where that bizarre tea-vibe in 00's has escaped at NA yet rarely any of them had something other than prefab alkaloid bags [1]

one thing that Skopye lacks, not that there havent been any til now, is tea-shops with open libraries, among whom earlier most famous was Az-BuKi - an local philosophical epicenter, anyway concept now largely threatened by this notepad-age, maybe this could be praised again if someone open Anti-cafe place similar to those in Moscow [1][2] an post-socialistic concept of stopwatch half-free or free-serving cafeteria something like all-you-can-eat buffets but as cafe opened in odd places like apartments, suburbs or ex-factories... also they should be typical meeting place for ngo's who cannot share free drinks&food to their members and guests... actually in this anti-cafes ideally coffee should be banned, coz as postsocialist invention AC must spread macrobiotic reasoning, surely not without reason [1][2][3]
     
another good thing that for now cant be found in Skopje is tea-tisane-cocktail cafe, selling healing herbal tea mixtures! maybe there are menus that offer some, but i haven heard for typical place!? opening such heal-tea-house in the city should be done by and maybe @ the agricultural faculty, or as part of the city's botanical garden located near, so to be introduced potentials&tastes of our local but also exotic plants, normally it would be beneficial in such place to be mounted stands of our-bee-federation, coz it would be sin to sweeten all that green-healing with white sugar [4] plus it would be pity if people dont have chance to try some true local honey [5]   



must say that while Skopje looks as cafe-seat of Macedonia, without some true coffee-pitch this can not be the case, having such this epithet goes and fit to Bitola - town through whom were entering european trends in Ottoman Empire, tho from there europeans have had the chance to find out for the ottoman trends - like the middle-age cafemania [1] actually Bitola citizens have kept one such trend from the past "d'afternoon coffee break" its funny but usually a daily walkable korzo street (parade street) in midday is overcrowded with coffee drinkers, simply whole town is pouring downtown on coffe-hour for one cup of coffee and they'll go after they've seen what they need plus leave what they dont, its like some local concrete beaching and those that cant find time for normally are perceived as homies, hm maybe it was so until tourism burst again and prices went up, making that same one cup to rise from 20 cents in the 90's to 1 euro in 00's probably now is 1.5, if not 3 coz Bitolchani as people from Pelagoniya usually act kabadaya's [2] tho many Skopyani too coz half Bitola in the past century moved to Skopye

actually cafe&tea rest-rooms are Muslim invention that Turks brought here even before west europe got any [3][4] anyway for Cafe here we say Kafana or in its literate-form Kafeana an coffee-an which in ex-yu time got serbian suffix as Kafich tho in turskih this sounds coffee4ich i.e. cofee for free, tho actually true coz coffee was rarely encashed in ex-yu, except if it was served like dessert-add e.g. coffey&lokum or coffey&figs
so speaking from histo-perspective maybe Bitola is one of the first european coffee-shop spots, maybe third right after Istanbul and Salonica coz Bitola back then was bigger than Skopye with similar population to Belgrade [5] yet from some tropical reasons probably the prevailing ottoman sanjak (collonial division) was named after Ohrid [6] anyhow today here, coffee is more gripping for Christians, coz nowadays among muslim-break-habits turkish tea rulz eventually salep [7]


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while our ex-yu boxed mentality was dissolved by herbal teas, masses that didnt have chance for coffee-shop brainstorming, usually meet on places like markets, and/or from where they obtain potent buds like that on the upper picture, which actually is herb-tea from Karajitsa widely known as planinski chai - a mountain-tea Sideritis Scardica, strangely but in coffee shops is rarely found raw like this, except maybe early in some alternative clubs that once here were literary rocking underground, like Menada, RockEnergy or Cachette, this last one pioneer of the reggae scene in Skopye with regular reggae-day in its program where not that only raw-tea was to be found but also homemade wine...

today raw-tea is sold at the local open-Green-markets, even on card boxes around them, and only thing that stand in way of this tradition is the recent fiscalization, which has pushed-out or pushed-in all d'free tea-sellers, what to say faulty european agenda of sterile standardization, only except from it are craftsmen from Charshiya (Old Bazaar) [1]

zoom in d'Sk Green Markets - http://www.closr.it/canvas/1534#/spot



at such markets across the country can be found everything, from needle to locomotive we say, and unlike in the past today there is only shortage of small live-animals like chickens,rabbits,ducks now allowed only at the animal-fair, but this is recouped by cheap electronics!
not sure how is now, but all open markets in Skopye have had cheap-dirt prices even for macedonian standard, among them most tradeable is the northest one in Shutka which is a roma-cloud for textile & trifle, and Bitpazar is far obtainable than any other - its the one beside the Old-bazaar, mostly albanian-cloud lately, and together with d'plastic-street from behind is most visited from all of the local markets, this is place where could be found spectre of asian&african textile&polyvinyl altho usually with turkish stamp on the rear side!
but despite all exotic mood around them, both of them makes the city little shabby, alto in such manner they are keeping our traditional trade habits, tho their grey economy is like horse-cart in urban traffic, i dont mind doh, even more coz the usual store traders are with so boxed attitude that they need exactly such asymmetric competition so they can escape their 4walled conformism of fixed prices and none space for bargain but only kickback and deceiving discounts

in Skopye there are also few specialized open markets, that now become somehow standardized, among whom cutest is the Flower-market near the main Catholic Church, but among locals i think most famous is the Auto-market (planned for dislocation) located right beside the macedonian customs depot, a most welcoming association for the secondhand car import, which recently blossom after macedonians got chance for importing cars older than 10 years, and after few years admission for oldtimers this autumn our import-mania got wilting greeting card, at least now every citizen has chance to contaminate some metropolitan air!
Another market that hits this category is the Flea-market, which as illegal for years was laying across the government, right bellow the fortress near the ice skating arena... there early could be found also even good antiquities and books, altho many of them in 90's especially the open-air bookstores settled around the city center, and for some time now they've been boxed downton in kiosk corridors


   

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  Quote +Protagorist Quote  Post ReplyReply #143 Posted: 22-Sep-2014 at 14:51

for me this new standardization as much as was expected and welcomed earlier, now i see that it become unnecessary burden to common people, it is almost like european benchmark trap for the poor, taking from them their urban fractal reasoning i.e. cardboxes around markets, cars on corners, improvised donut&gevrek carts, and all that similar urban utility guerrillas - the so called grays as they are making enough to be taxed!
Like fractal street marketers they were typical for the transition and not so common in the socialistic past, coz then jobs and salaries were assured in some artificial social-matrix, but ridiculously woven by antisocialists waiting in line for aristocratic lush, altho even then there have been hobos around our soc-system that have been left behind for recycle, from this aspect I am curious why leaders in SRMa didnt had will for social-marketing although they declared themselves as socialists, their followers actually stil exists backed by their leftovers of ex-yu suppressed nostalgia [1] hm probably back then it was not easy to be socially aware when all progressive minds had strive for pro-western touch from art til marketing [2] maybe they were discouraged by the Russian soc-trends which influenced them only as constructivism on agitprop level [3][4][5]

Stil no matter how upper class in ex-yu was stuffed with frantic capitalist subconscious, masses were far beyond that planed boxed consumerism, altho they've fell on the all-round collective vacation mode, cruising around the federal lakes mountains and sea, some says that this wouldnt be case if there were not for shs-group budgeting to pay for, tho they were using loans for that too [1] and even if it was true all the power was concentrated in their hands, sharing only good manners as collective market i.e. selling us machines while buying groceries, it was some sort of federal conspiracy to keep macedonians on low metabolism coz their fear of any new revolutionary ambition that we can evoke if we were progressive… [2] coz this we were something like second-class republic for decisions making in the federation, altho there were always “right-hand-man” macedonians of the Y-feldmarschall even lk for ten days was first and last Macedonian president of ex'yu, normally we had small amount of grownup leaders coz our intelligentsia was eider imprisoned or relaxed with yugo-carrots, other as usual find escape in word acrobatics, having wide flow while prosifying and safe heaven plunging in poetry, tho some have been unplunged by accidental shots while hiking in woods as was case with Kocho Racin but this rude shorting-pencil-strategy was usual only around wwII while after SRMa joined SFYu authorities used more pressurized than shorting methods in their yugo-catharsis as was case with Zivko Chingo d’macedonian socialistic’tolstoy which words had large bell resonance - later praised through the movie Great Water and the song Babadjan



But for everyday people with centuries of collective war memory, this ex-yu willing ancillary was almost ideal, as long waited love missive, if not ideal coz the postwar carrots like collectivization & industrialization, a whole spread education & sport, transport transform, also belonging to large body of balkanism, then new fast & easy communication, yeah chance to listen soccer on radio and watch some finale on tele, simply it was more than working-class revolution it was techno paradigm shift, even long lasting through dosed technical echoing in every field from art til marketing, in that progressive realm among east and west - an european golden ratio of economy & politics, more westerner doh - which was most obvious by the yu-art

in this context e.g. after '60s for kids arrived even Italian comics like Zagor or Alan Ford [1] but also Italian soccer sticker albums, altho first stickers locally had been produced in '65 by Krash as part of their animal kingdom choco-bar [2] I remember my first shared-soccer album Mexico’86, even i can snif some memory of stickers smell [3] maybe it would hit me even harder if our federal team qualified for that fifa-cup [4] or maybe that period lacked some soccer showmen so it could make that federal socialistic soccer euphoria extra pearly, one that we have received later in our ‘90s independent transitionalism when he lift up the land through channel-103 soccer radio shows [5] after he kicked the football into audience in his vox-populi Yadi Burek subsequently becoming local morality-toner and nwo-dis-tuner called Janko with potential to bring back courtesy as collectivism instead this ongoing strive for western individualism


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  Quote +Protagorist Quote  Post ReplyReply #144 Posted: 22-Sep-2014 at 21:33

In that same transition we experienced blow from earlier socialistic affinities of street sellers, who if earlier have had occupy only the side streets, in ’90s they cornered every one with their car-kiosks, selling anything that can be sold tho usually food [1][2] or textile…
also in that time happened two things that socialism lacked earlier as regular – a cheap taxi and home delivery, even the second one was done in the beginning by taxi, coz it was extra affordable due to the enormous number of gypsy cabs but also unstandardized service, it was almost enough to have car tho taximeter and sign would be beneficial as long-term investment, this cozed pizza & burgers to be delivered easy by taxi, anyway, as I can remember officially first own home delivery service had an Burek bakery, then around the new millennium also came a city-bike delivery [1]

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to all of them predecessors are socialistic moto-carts that were waiting around green markets, which were main small-cargo-option for many people, there were also larger transporters which illegal spot was at the old train station - right beside skopyes ex-flower market... it was our famous transitional time, when around the boroughs were cruising tractors selling watermelons, or at busiest side streets were hanging trailers selling veggies in bulk... all together they’ve give to every town in Macedonia a typical asian mood, resembling one huge free untaxed Open market, it was time of ‘90s hedonism when young were partying 24/7 and workers were working for nothing, while music piracy was like best western achievement that we have reach back then


with the last wave of european legislation tuning, we have leave all types of improvised way of market life... normally, having no capacity to loosen public fears (from all this change to strong fiscal regulation & standardization) Koljo (our prime minister) decided that neoclassicism is d'solution for relaxing of all possible masses, and must say he wasnt wrong, coz the other option for westernization is new boxing in malls and mall like mentality, not that there desperate people coz lack of it, tho more malls eventually will lead again to more museums [1] but at least now this mallism is not only urban trend around! now Macedonia again have the chance to be freedom spreader, yep, there are enough bronze hands for delivering of this unique 21 century urban tranquility, at least people will enjoy real psychedelic mood instead living it digital, of course macedonians went again somehow analog!


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  Quote +Protagorist Quote  Post ReplyReply #145 Posted: 23-Sep-2014 at 20:31

I’l leave one more Alt-an to this freestyle market talk

So altho this standardization has its own good sides like chance for controlling what is or its not organic, or at least labeling gmo foods which is mandatory here, then antibacterial haccap etc. (something like human social reflex [1] then again if this standardization is producing heavy market dullness whats the use from, except room for extra profit of multi-market mastodons, and happily for now we stil dont have such altho we have created few with mid-size potential like Sileks and Orka this second one arc for textile,food,medicine etc. yet they are like acid rain that cant be avoided even there is no standards around
and after we start boxing ourselves with eu-legislation we placed ourselves on path to become more selfish but also less happy, its simple, in this age of naked materialism in whom we try to transit completely - we become more and more antisocial, unmoral til bone and greedy from head2heel!

but coz it was not always so, probably there is stil plenty true socialistic vibe somewhere around, actually one of reasons why we are so welcoming, tho our southern mentality is the main spice for this, therefore I think thats right time 4 our dance Pravoto (2><1 steps) so after two steps forward to capitalism we need new one backwards to socialism, altho this last right-winged government is trying to promote many socially popular measures, even people say successfully tho they have plenty space to fil in with solitude til they "come down to" their socialistic roots [1][2] "passing by" their capitalist stem! maybe theyre fine now as leafs, with high central burst, but from it stil its not benefiting on large the middle class and even less poor ones, tho many felt the breeze of change which this last revolutionaries-by-root have bring [3] first of all this space should be filled with thoughts for the poor and all that need more than social care young or old! til now this was done only for homeless people but ghettoizing them without consent in some barracks in Katlanovo near Skopye which normally gives first-aid comfort for all homeless&jobless people but its not quality solution for longterm sustainable social-help!


not that there is universal solution for every social case, specially the ill or hooked which need more than socialism [1] maybe Christian vegetarianism, but I think that for most of the people that have lost anyhow happiness in their life, there could be offered sustainable means which will bring back again their smile e.g. IF macedonian authorities Open one organic-hippy-door with some sort of Rural Collectivization, especially for people who want to escape from the urban ghetto and free their mind, in same time they'll need strong encouragement and help from the government for that, not just art minded hope but true program for rural migration, fast and easy as in town ruins should be taxed extra which would lead to rural colonization of all that deserted half ruined village palaces, also This Is Only Way & Chance for them to survive as traditional architecture! Long story short – “give people chance sustainably to escape from the concrete jungle, in same time saving all histo-rural places through them” Naturalists, not only they'll revive all our unique (abandoned and ruined) villages but they'll open room again for (once already reached) own national classicism through our rural architecture aside its traditional music, some kind of wide spread true revival of its own past

say for example this happened 10 years ago, now we would have largest European rural thematic park, but also potentially extra organic agriculture coz those that escape from city in nature surely don’t go coz profit per se, but also happy healthy life, and I’m sure that there are many who will flee there immediately if they've had chance, altho surely not everyone would be ready for independent rural life, which could be reached maybe some sort of commune like kibbutz village living [1][2][3][4] even this could be must-do acclimatisation for everybody, so they could be valuate and prompted for independent farming & rural tourism - which should be mandatory for getin free refurbished house [5] yep ironically here standardization will help even as gift it could be obligated to offer some free accommodation for elders - so they can finally say its good to be working-class hero...
ideally all this should be promoted to authorities by some nGo like Lenka [6] who will bring-out some know-how brainstorming about such urban re-emigration [7] tho first of all they'll need to establish stronger Voluntarism for this could last [8] even all minor law offender could be sentenced to help out such rural comeback
       


this gif is comparison view, of just how this process should be thoughtful i.e. we need revival of the tradition as from the first two ruined houses which in same manner will be uplifted, not as the second pair of cross-over, or the last two photos of new-skool traditionalism! check these links below for examples of real tradition    
Traditional Macedonian Architecture [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8]
http://www.build.mk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=373&PID=134363#134363

at last i'l say Altans are like grape fruit, they are necessary only if they are valuable and immediately useful, I think this one now is mature enough for such rural revival echo, even greeting as long term investment for any case scenario of economic or natural slump!



http://www.build.mk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=373&PID=144237#144237 [1]



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actually that whole new tarnish makeup of Skopye, d so called project Sk'14, in my opinion shouldt be in neoclassical but byzantine style, as is most of our heritage here, closer to our rural pattern of stone&wood, but for this we lack two essential things 1. army of stonemasons and 2. 20-30 year budgeting such monumental remake of this same spatial eclecticism, not that here we didnt have european neoclassical influence as heritage but as always Haemon was middle man between east and west, tho most of that western influence was either buried by wars or quakes, and only few streets in Skopye and Bitola have kept its own authentic neoclassicism



http://haemus.org.mk/byzantine-heritage/


in a way in Macedonia now byzantine architectural style rulz, and maybe this recent neoclassical tone in this last Macedonian Capital - Skopye is just nothing else but compromise for european compatibility, as its not enough that Haemon geographically is part of Europe!? now symbolically skopyes byzantine Stone Bridge is surrounded by neoclassicism thus our migration from east to west to be more smoothly but despite all even this NC is better than leaving whole space to be fulfilled with cheap modern glass cubes, something that will only widen our consumerism and maybe some neon glare in our eyes! i'll say as much all this Sk'14 looks out from its time Still its more than welcomed specially coz its Оvalism which has force to settle any boxed anger or emptiness - ovalism that only lacks more bottlephones [1] tho there should be added few plugins to some detail like flowers on the bridge fences so they can cover all that ugly balustrade, most of the bridge-sculptures to be walked around the river, those on the pillars in front of the Church of Most Holy Mary to be brought down among the people while they'll keep the pillars as symbol of Christian Stylites and finally they could make some fine elliptical tuning on the pedestal of d'Brave equestrian e.g. its enough just the posts tray to get convex pull, or even better if after the statue post gets concave push, tho every flaw could be quickly masked with stronger-interactive-mood for this sophomoric fountain [1] really those pedestals of the son Alex and the father Ficho - cant rest easily in my aesthetic registries, maybe they are intentionally made unfit and through refitting to blow some continual attention [2]



http://blonde-gypsy.com/2013/01/16/15-things-you-should-know-before-traveling-to-macedonia/

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and from all the things that every Macedonian downtown must have, the Carousel is first one on the list! this one in Skopye was even carefully ordered and placed as ambition trap for all the would-be alexG kids, its horizontal spins give true meaning to all this central thematic park in this town, and next stop for those that will grown-up is the squares portico known as Pavilion of Love, which should be something like sk-ferrytail coming true for all teenagers that transit from wanna-be to will-be AlexG, yet bitter but alkaline is the truth, that after the pavilion y'll need to pass few lions and falanx so they can climb up the watermelon-universe of the equestrian warrior [1]      

http://tourismus-in-mazedonien.blogspot.com/2014_05_01_archive.html









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  Quote stratus Quote  Post ReplyReply #148 Posted: 24-Sep-2014 at 21:36
+Protagorist од дамна ме интересирало која ти е целта да го полниш непотребно форумот со линкови, видеа и текстови што често и немаат никаква врска со градежништво?
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Originally posted by Max



се е на соодветно место пријателе од несоодветниве муабети, најчесто во нишкава и во подфорумот НТ, а оти така и тука, е тоа е веќе друга работа за која доколку сум вишок сигурно ќе бидам предупреден од администрација, терај по ПП со вакви умни дилеми во иднина

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last year i've traveled through Ukraine, and if i have clue that in the next years this country would be attractive only for adventurers, i would stay longer, tho that which i am after like history and archeology probably will stay intact, yet people will not and this changes everything about someones decision to travel somewhere!
from this aspect have in mind that its same with Haemon (balkan) i.e. seize upon the bargains being offered by airlines and hotels now, also now this place is welcoming enough to be enjoyed freely&poshy from tourist point of view, and only hazard is eventual urban-aesthetic mind-boggling that could hit someones travel expectation&experience, tho with slight change of the lens angle even most distorted views could be happily absorbed! in this manner from all misunderstandings, the biggest that i have regularly come across - is when visitors expecting sharp-mood either from east or west, tho after few strolls around they are amused that Macedonia is mixed grape with taste of rainbow fascination, mostly coz its staidly escapism of nature,culture,history,art & architecture! Macedonia is bridge among and above EuroAsia if not beyond [1] and altho Macedonia has many faces and meanings, in reality simply is place were Macedonians enjoy its cuisine as their mirror and its food as theirs silver, foremost Macedonia is our precious dining and birth table...

and not that only guests enjoy, but hommies too, coz whats for U macedonian city, to Macedonians are local villages, and if there is enough rural accommodation i'm sure many fellows without hesitation weekly would visit some new village, either down the rivers and valleys or upon the hills and mountains, it could be said exploring rural life is like diving among coral reefs, always expect laughing squids sounds&stories... 
normally there is always need of cheap transport for such divings to be managed easily, and despite that food prices can be extra affordable, for local standards refueling is quite expensive - following european steps with balkan shoes [1][2] thats why lpg rulz vs gasoline, and would be even more affordable in near future when South Stream will passing by...
on other hand for average foreign traveler among most important thing is flight and rail prices which are cheap enough coz recent air-taxi explosion here, so for few euros any european can jump on coffee break in Skopye, tho the break should be scheduled months in front so it could be with dirt-cheap flight, also it would be helpful for any flying dilemma to search answers in the Airlines-thread of this forum also u can check the Rail-subforum for any questions about train trips             




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for photos check the link

8 Things That Surprised Me About Macedonia - 15.06.2014

1. It’s not in Greece.
Okay, actually I already knew that Macedonia was also a country, not just an ancient area of Greece, thanks mostly to a mild addiction I had to playing Sporcle’s Countries of the World and Flags of the World geography games while living in Japan.

But it turns out there’s some serious controversy surrounding the country’s name, with many insisting it only be referred to as the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.
Oh, and don’t even get started on Alexander the Great…

2. Lake Ohrid completely deserves the hype.
When people in Serbia and Albania kept raving about Lake Ohrid and telling us not to skip it, I was a little skeptical. I mean hello, I’m from Norway, so it takes a lot for a lake to impress me.

Oh my goodness, Lake Ohrid was so impressive! Not only was the water beautifully clear and perfect for a refreshing dip, but the whole area is surrounded by quaint fishing villages and majestic mountains.
Slightly less impressive, however, was the weather. It rained almost our entire time in Ohrid, so I only managed to get a couple of photos between downpours.

3. Skopje is home to 284 statues.
Okay that might be a rough estimate, but I’m pretty sure it’s close. Seriously, there were enormous statues everywhere. Pretty bizarre.Travel Skopje, Macedonia statues Travel Skopje, Macedonia statues Travel Skopje, Macedonia Travel Skopje, Macedonia statues Travel Skopje, Macedonia statues

4. Skopje was totally redesigned in 2014.
Apparently Skopje didn’t always look this bizarre. “Skopje 2014″ was a both costly and controversial project launched by the government in 2010 in an effort to transform the capital into a more unified and visually appealing European city.

We asked various locals what they thought about their city’s makeover, and responses ranged from awkward silences to mild acceptance to full on disgust. One man complained that it was just an unnecessarily expensive display of nationalism aimed against Greece. Ouch!

5. Meal cost us a total of 3 euros, including a 2-liter jug of local red wine.Macedonian food local wine salad
Restaurant meals in Skopje were similarly cheap and tasty.

6. People speak German!
After struggling in Albania due to my lack of Albanian/Italian/Greek language skills, I was so pleased to be greeted with “Sprechen Sie Deutsch?”
Why yes, I do spreche !
This especially worked with elderly men, as it seemed that all of them had at some point spent time working in Germany, which meant that we were hanging with a pretty cool crowd while in Macedonia.

7. Šuto Orizari, or Shutka, the world’s largest concentrated Roma population, isn’t quite the outrageous gypsy festival one might imagine.
I had been both fascinated and horrified by the plight of the Roma community in Serbia and Albania, so when I heard that Shutka was just I fifteen-minute bus ride from Skopje’s city center I was curious to visit. But while I did eat an extraordinarily tasty pita burger there, I didn’t feel like I was anywhere particularly out of the ordinary.

For the Roma “Gypsies,” however, Shutka is something quite extraordinary.
Having left India more than a thousand years ago, the Roma people can be found spread around the world and they are almost always discriminated against, living on the outskirts of society. Shutka is the only municipality in Europe with Romani as an official language and a Roma mayor.

8. Macedonia is incredibly easy to hitchhike through.
I know hitchhiking is easier for girls, but I can’t imagine anyone having a hard time finding a ride in Macedonia. We hitchhiked everywhere, including from Skopje to Greece, with our longest wait being about eight minutes.

9. We didn’t have to book any rooms in advance.
Sometimes it pays to visit a place during off-season (if even just barely off).
We weren’t in Ohrid for three minutes before someone was pointing us to an apartment we could stay in for 6 euros/night. The owner was the sweetest woman who continuously fed us coffee and cookies.home stay apartment Lake Ohrid, MacedoniaWhen we arrived in Trpejca, a picturesque fishing village about a 20-minute ride from Ohrid that everyone needs to someday visit, we wandered around in the rain until a kind family found us a room for 5 euros/night, possibly in their friend’s summer home.

In Skopje we stayed at Backpacker’s Skopje. We didn’t book in advance, but we did check the price (7 euros) so we knew better when they tried to charge us 10 euros. The location was convenient and the rooms comfortable, and we learned that a perk of staying somewhere with perpetually high staff is that they will keep bringing you food.

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10. Dis is di age af reality
But some a wi a deal wid mytalagy
Dis is di age af science an' teknalagy
But some a wi a check fi antiquity




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3. Skopje is home to 284 statues.
Okay that might be a rough estimate, but I’m pretty sure it’s close. Seriously, there were enormous statues everywhere. Pretty bizarre.Travel Skopje, Macedonia statues Travel Skopje, Macedonia statues Travel Skopje, Macedonia Travel Skopje, Macedonia statues Travel Skopje, Macedonia statues
 
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Како ова не ни текнало досега ?
 
Изгледа целта на актуелната влада на Република Македонија, е Скопје да има по еден споменик за секој ден од годината, исто како што и Охрид има по една црква за секој ден од годината.
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Hades and Persephone cannot bear to refuse Orpheus’s plea, and grant Eurydice’s release, on one condition: that Orpheus does not look back at her until he leaves the underworld. He agrees, but at the very last moment, anxious that she has fallen behind, he turns to look at her—and indeed, she falls away “with a last farewell which scarcely reach[es] his ears” [1]
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who in the world have Isis on their 10 bill as most common baknote in any place, actualy its not so scary moment because there is Peacokc an early bizantine Pavo from the basilica mosaique in Stoby which strikes as observe side althought oficcialy is the reverse one [1] just one of all imposibilities here this with pagan vs Christian mood on tis shoulders [1]

btw bill with&without uv watermarks http://monedasybilletes.jimdo.com/billetes-del-mundo/billetes-de-europa/macedonia/

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or maybe our careless habits here are hanged around our necks as curse coz our money, that holds the name DENar meaning DAY so its enjoyfull shiny for anyone to spend this currency that has unique banknotes e.g. maybe only in the world with images of Most Holy Marry and Archangel Gabriel + the Phoenix Pavo, but also - poppy flowers, isis, cerberus and maenad, it could be eloquently said that those are unsuitable choices for banknotes, if anybody cares for the feelings of the faithful which are condemned to trade with holy or unholy images! yep go with flow mentality...




i wonder did nature or humans mutulated this torso maybe the


uranian aphrodite as revenge
still people see Isis as Ghea thus mother earth, yet they forget that paganism was constantly evolving its myths so no one knows what was actualy true, some even go further finding dna-messages inbetween - 'The truth about the Great Mother is just that she is Love, the darkness is nullified because Life is Born again...it is in the evil minds of men that have tarnished the truth...no sacrifices are needed to her but to love one another. All else is a lie.'
if the oracle from delphi was destroyed by Apolon [1] then Ghea here is done and Simit is the One [2] in Skopje it could be obtain unbelievably professional from the largest bakery in Chair located right in front of OC Saint George
must ad that people rarly choose to overeat Simit but when they do its like dream come true - normaly if there is hunger as inspiration but also Yogurt as motivation, who knows maybe our Isis once was served Simit after what she have lost its own head & extremities

btw from new year 'isis' made folklore holiday companied by black fridays or halloweens, even Santa have become her best winter pitch for soft drinks and sugar candyes so more and more people it could stay asleep [1] strange She which force passions kills our emotions smoothly while She swimming&emjoying its own matrix     


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  Quote beTon Quote  Post ReplyReply #157 Posted: 07-Jan-2015 at 14:41

despite Strong Christianity i could freely say that paganism here is also relevant although covert e.g. skopska-charshiya has few layers beneath itself, place where once through the centuries were bursting monoteism and epicurianism side by side as rivals, then in the last 50 years those from the second clan overcome spreading only underground gravity through their underground cafes and clubs, now too but with less weird and more pretty faces all of them ready to suck some free energy stocked around, but lately monotheism has its own revival too...

Charshiya is place in the capital that is very similar to the Prespa Island (island with 50k snakes and largest 10k european population of hilly Turtles [1]) so be careful if not paranoid, actually, while visiting any charshiya here in Macedonia, not just because the folklore but also because it is Twilight Zone between our two ethnic vibes i.e. here sparks our famous macedonian~albanian cohabitation that is regularly hold as hostage by some local vampire with familiar affinities [2] one that are praying in the night while clubbing with good stories and smiles that captures any imagination, stories with sharp and tied chains [3] and smiles shaped by blood cravings - chronically ill patients what else to say [3]

Charshiya - Danger Zone for Party Nightlife

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unlike today, ten years ago in our soc-demo transition Charshiya was drug hot-spot in Macedonia, chilled by well educated drug users, transition which opened few other main-spots in the city which are alive even today, need update citation, where tourist should not stroll for fun, like the famous Dizonska and more notorious Ordan Chopela, the first one in the hearth of Chair and the second in the hearth of Gazi Baba yaya-pasha now is straight, although if you ask me every neighborhood in our perpetumobile metropolis has own evil corner or spot, So if you sense some avoid it with big tomorrow smile because here murders are rare as mountain lions, yet there are rumors that there is active organ exchange liver is always in shortage especially lately after many junk-drugs appeared here in '00s from downers til uppers, ah '90s at least you would fry only your brain now everything from first hand! now upper like mdma is pure poison and speed is fine kerosine [1] for white and yellow brownies today dont even think - all of them gmo modified !!!




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these bitter posts above are reminder that, despite all woven beauty around Macedonia and its latest capital Skopje, there is also another side of the coin - which can be read and live through sweet agony! SO be careful how you drive especially if your shell is already rusty ~ anyway escape all modern eugenics and their chemical traps like junk-drugs or junk-food, and this should be done with macrobiotic reason at hand, but more like organic anarchy appointed against our modern society full of hidden dangers and traps

Again i can peacefully say that such dark-dangers in all macedonian cities are their old fortresses - Kale's, where at least for two millennia has been shed extra amount of blood [siz=1](most of our strongholds became settled in antiquity although many have been arranged even in eneolith like Kokino in Nagorichane or Kale in Skopje) sorted by periods all that negative energy is waiting for new sacrifices probably thats why from time to time on skopye fortress there are large festivals like Skopye Burning [1] or Pivoland and surely after all reconstruction of the site is done, all other events like Vinofest or Baskerfest will be centered there

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how to challenge any evil is noted page earlier, but how to untie your own chains while going out at night that cant be generalized i.e. how to become more durable to any negativity while you are thinking that you are partying somewhere out - or even worst deep down in some holl in level with all darkly spinning causality [1] then again every challenge leads to higher customs in the Aerial Toll Houses whether this is done underground or upwards - either with forgetfulness or sharp thoughts

happily there is plenty neoclassicism now around, so all this dark layers that were existing once are buried even deeper in the fabric of time, which with its Kale and Stone Bridge can pull some unique echoes from time to time, at least on some paper-feuilleton or forum-talk
Originally posted by Max

its curiosity that even today there is some amount of leftover munition that is regularly digged through some reconstructions or excavations, as it was finding of 80kg forgotten dynamite

another friendly advice when you see some creatures or dragons around Use your creativity so they could be easily slayed down, think about Your heritage and how Your ancestors wrapped them out in Fur from OM ... dont give up the fight use your program wise, use it for liberation of your soul, although many times through dungeon one can wake up its own ideals or assure them for life [1]


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  Quote beTon Quote  Post ReplyReply #160 Posted: 07-Jan-2015 at 15:12

dont forget TRAVELING could be either Quest or Decadence which depends on few small things like expanding Your Free Will and usually searching for Sweet Temptations

funny the latest neoclassicism in Skopye can lite them both, verified talent that cant be found in any other balkan tavern, he is trying to pull off your free will in times like naked antiquity when epicurean logic blasted away the life around, but also its reminiscence in the eve of the two world wars when ottomans were expelled from here while we welcomed the western masonic pride and all its cards like cheap-bordels (brothels) which now are available only high in the mountains while back then were flourishing downtown people say almost whole was red district досие-скопје-2 then came Tito and made this history - maybe only good thing that he has done for Macedonia - maybe enough    




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