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  Quote Makedonij Quote  Post ReplyReply #21 Posted: 13-Jan-2012 at 16:43
Vidam deka si od Kočan, ili pak naveduvaš nekakvi končanski strani, nogu blisku tamu vo edeno gradče Vinica (oddalečeno 6 km) ima muzej i vo nego rabotat nekolku arheolozi, koji sigurno ke ti dadat informaciji koji gi baraš, duri ima i karta za antičkite gradovi vo makedonija, koji do den denes ne se točno utvrdeni koj kade stoii. Temata e preširoka da se razgovara za nea.

Edinstven dokaz za toe e Mikoličevata TIR kniga, koja gi opišuva tie, ili pak ti imaš poveke znaeenje od niv pa sega ke se karam so tebe, niškata e predstavena kako Vilazora, i dodeka nema nekoji detalni informaciji mislam deka toa ne e ni važno.

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  Quote bylazora Quote  Post ReplyReply #22 Posted: 13-Jan-2012 at 18:56
Pocituvani gospodine,

Nastojuvam da se pridrzuvam na temata za Bylazora i go pocituvam sloganot na Goce Delcev, ЈАС ГО РАЗБИРАМ СВЕТОТ КАКО ПОЛЕ НА КУЛТУРЕН НАТПРЕВАР so dodatokot i pridones so novi soznanija.

Veruvajte mi deka i gospodinot Вилијам Најдингер koj veke istrazuva polni pet godini na lokalitetot kaj Kneze ne e tolku siguren deka ja iskopuvat Bylazora sporet toa sto go ima kazano na vesnikot Dnevnika deka "Веруваме дека ја истражуваме Билазора", http://www.dnevnik.com.mk/default.asp?ItemID=BBCF0855BA249B4381F1E9B5103573F3

Kako pricina za toa gospodinot
Вилијам Најдингер go priznava faktot deka "Сите веруваме дека ова е градот Билазора, иако немаме цврст доказ"

Gospodinot Вилијам Најдингер vaka ja ima komentirano brozurata za postoenjeto na alternativnite gradovi kaj Kneze, http://www.macedonia.se/en/Load/55/kneze_sveti_nikole/
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"If we understand your idea correctly it is this:

The site near Knezje is:

1) Psaphara in Paractia which was conquered by Philip II and its name changed to

2) Philippoupolis in Parorbelia, whose name was eventually changed to

3) Antigonia in Paeonia by Antigonas Gonatas and eventually became

4) Presidio of the Tabula Peutingeriana.

In short, your theory is quite interesting but we have some serious doubts about the proper location of the cities you mention.


We still do not think that the identifications you made are completely correct, especially that Veles is Bylazora.  But in this summer's lectures at the excavation we will surely tell our students about your theory.  We are always interested in alternative theories about the identification of Bylazora-Knezje".






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  Quote bylazora Quote  Post ReplyReply #23 Posted: 13-Jan-2012 at 22:56
Pocituvani gospodine,
Pocit prema sekogo a posebno i prema prijatelte arheolozi koi rabotat na Vinickoto kale. Se sekavam na edna grozna gletka koga bese dozvoleno na gospodinot Balabanov da istrazuva na Vinickoto kale. Po zavrsuvanjeto na iskopuvanjeto gospodinot Balabanov go napustil lokalitetot nezastiten so desetici ogoleni pitosi. Preku zimata i proletta, seto toa sto obstanalo citavo vo zemjata so iljadnici godini nasite braka kozari od Vinica go imat napraveno lom i nisto nemase ostaveno citavo, se bese crkseno i unisteno in situ. So koj pamet toj, nasiot najvrven arheolog, gospodinot Balabanov e razmisluval koga si zaminal od svojata doverliva zadaca da ja iskopuva istorijata na makedonskiot narod. Prema mene, dovolno bi bilo mesnata zaednica da dokara nekolku traktori separiran pesok i seto toa da go zapazi od vandalizam. Sto se dogoduva sega so arheoloskoto iskopuvanje na Vinickoto kale? Prav vandalizam! Toa ne se moi zborovi tuku zborovi na viden arheolog od SAD, gospogicata Carolyn S. Snively koja go istrazuva arheoloskiot lokalitet kaj Golemo Gradiste pri seloto Konjuh, Kratovsko. Taa vaka veli za profesionalnoto rabotenje na arhelozite sto go iskopuvat Vinickoto kale: < ="text/">

"I had not been to Vinica for several years until our team visited the site of Vinicko Kale a couple of weeks ago, thinking that it would be useful to look at a site similar to ours in date and to some extent in topography. We took a lot of photographs;  it is a rather grim place since the excavator has now stripped much of the top of the hill to bedrock.  It is, of course, the site where the so-called "terracotta icons" were excavated in 1985 and occasionally since then.  Not much else has been published
about the excavations".

Ima li potreba za komentar kako treba da se iskopuva na eden arheoloski lokalitet vo republika makedonija?



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  Quote Џоле Quote  Post ReplyReply #26 Posted: 08-Aug-2014 at 13:16
Bylazora or Vilazora was a Paeonian city from the period of early classic antiquity. It is located on the Vardar river, at Veles in the Republic of Macedonia.



In August 2008, a team of researchers led by archaeologist Boban Husenovski from the National Museum of Macedonia with the participation of researchers from the The Texas Foundation for Archaeological & Historical Research discovered the main gate of a city, fortification walls, and plenty of small archaeological finds that have been dated to between the 6th and 3rd century B.C.



From these findings, they have been able to confirm that these are in fact the remains of the ancient Paeonian city of Bylazora.
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  Quote Џоле Quote  Post ReplyReply #27 Posted: 08-Aug-2014 at 13:23






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  Quote kultuzin Quote  Post ReplyReply #29 Posted: 08-Aug-2014 at 14:36
Многу ме нервира што уште се користи терминот пред новата ера, класичен комнистички термин кој треба да се смени и да се користи општоприфатениот пред христа.
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  Quote Sashko Quote  Post ReplyReply #30 Posted: 08-Aug-2014 at 15:27
Може ли некој координати?
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  Quote gjoko Quote  Post ReplyReply #31 Posted: 08-Aug-2014 at 18:26
41.846822, 21.912335

а малку подолу на 41.828616, 21.956750 се наоѓа геоглифот што го претставуваат како гробот на Александар Велики
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  Quote kultuzin Quote  Post ReplyReply #32 Posted: 29-Aug-2014 at 23:54
Има повеќе делови мислам дека нема потреба да ги постираме сите кој сака се наоаѓт кога ќе се отвори еден.





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  Quote Џоле Quote  Post ReplyReply #33 Posted: 29-Aug-2015 at 11:33


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  Quote bylazora Quote  Post ReplyReply #34 Posted: 26-Sep-2016 at 15:08
Ubikacijata na Bylazora kaj Kneze, Sveti Nikole e golema utka a za toa e odgovoren gospodinot Ivan Mikulcic.
Bylazora se naoga kaj Veles i tamu ke postoi za sekogas. Bylazora se spomnuva samo dvapati od antickite istoricari i od niv znaeme deka Bylasora se naoga kaj eden tesnec, koj e od stratesko znacenje za branenje na makedonskoto kralstvo od upadite na Dardanite. Od kaj Veles, Bylazora, odi pat preku Babuna za Prilep i Pelagonija dodeka patot od Veles po tecenieto od desnata strana na Vardar odi za Tikvesijata. Bylazora ne se naoga kaj Kneze, Sveti Nikole, bidejki tamu ne postoi nikakov tesnec i toa mesto ne e od znacenje za odbranata na makedonskata drzava vo vremeto na Persej. Rekata Vardar e nepreodna i prestavuva geografska prepreka za premin na Dardanite za upad vo teritorijata na makedonskoto kralstvo pred okupacijata na Makedonija od strana na Rimjanite.
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