Question about Macedonian Cities

Population wise I'd say Tetovo. 2 universities, lots of young population... We will see how the new university will affect Stip as well.

Economic wise I'd say the Tetovo-Gostivar agglomeration. I would like to say Gevgelija as well but I don't have the impression it's really like that. Strumica is among the richest I'd say as well.

Poorest. Hm... Perhaps Kratovo-Kriva Palanka region I'd say.

I can only separate Gevgelia as a city that can not be measured by the methods taken for the other cities. Gavegelia has four times much more restaurants per capita than the other cities. It has only 300 unemployed people whoch says a lot for the situation. It's a bit specific. Strumica as well, also Dojran which realy suprised me when I was last time there, last year. It has a lot of new small buildings, hotels, micro-industry etc. That the region most closer to the E.U. and it's really positive afecting the macedonian cities near the border. Tetovo is a different situation. It's like a capital city by its own for a very big percent of the population and that's the biggest driver for the development of that city. Kriva Palanka, Sveti Nikole, Kratovo are the cities od bulgarian license plates (no offence) and nothing else. Its the biggest dump of macedonian economy.

Edited by lslcrew - 28-Oct-2009 at 02:19

Why do you think the Kriva Palanka region is poorer than other region? Could geography be a factor? (mountainous region)

Originally posted by macedonia Gevgelija only has 300 unemployed people? Wow, I didn't know that town was that prosperous. I think I huge factor must be the Solunchani. Bitola is close to the Greek border but I don't see it as an economically strong city. Also, is it a coincidence that Tetovo is Macedonia's fastest growing city and also mostly inhabited by ethnic Albanians? Or are Albanians a hard working and enthusiastic people? ... Why do you think the Kriva Palanka region is poorer than other region? Could geography be a factor? (mountainous region)

you should also check the stats www.stat.gov.mk/english/soopstenija_eng.asp?name=01.01

about geography, yes there is some limit but with good planing this can be outrun, with alternative tourism for example, unfortunately we dont invest enough in capacities and infrastructure, also ecology and marketing, and for sure we have advertising campaigns outside but we are lacking promo materials at home... gevgely is exception because of large gambling sector which attract many cross-border neighbors, thus dismiss any vacuum from social class, coz except agriculture and gambling gevgely for now have nothing else to be prosperous, maybe soon with ski and eco tourism but for now those sectors are in initial stage as it is in all country... in other hand strumitsa has strong agricultular sector and big emigration which recompense most of the negative numbers... piacenza-strumicenza 

also urban investments in polog region are flourishing due to strong emigrant population which sent or bring their earnings home, and the biggest factor for this urban growth I think is the custom for gaining respectful status as emigrant worker by investing at home in real-estate rather in manufacturing. in one hand emigration reduce the welfare, but in other maybe because real-estate option is general choice as investment the west regions are with highest rate of social aid by population, for this also high rate of natality counts! but extra factor is that youth is oriented strongly for jobs in towns rather at country, as result the cities are going unevenly populated which in fact brings some intense urban activity but this doesnt mean that all life aspects are blooming, phenomenon which is trend across all state regions... 

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there are few rampant problems in our country which are culprit for nowadays regional stagnation, first lack of greenfield investments due to instability in the region, also as usual the grey economy which produce unloyal competition, also lack of interest in our business class for manufacturing, mostly they are turned to retail and import combinations... this mood this transitional way of life will be one long constant if we instantly dont cop with our potential, for start with agricultural outsourcing! we must invest in large amounts of organic agriculture, pomiculture and horticulture, also in elite(healthy) foodstuff industry, maybe strongly in arts and crafts from the traditional culture as pottery or jewelry, and normally after this background we must engage our touristic potential, but this couldnt be done without vast help from the state which finally has started to come but we need fast and vast production arrangement. also our industry is basically choking only on mining and steel industry as main export branches, so we must revive and repair other sectors strongly if we want to bust the standards and be competitive in europe, this means total reorganization and redistribution of resources along with relocation of labor EPO, BPO, KPO and ITOutsorcing because the first big problems which will come with european integration will be competitiveness and mind leakage, this can potentially trow us from balance further more, in aspect of economic potential...

first of all we must be self-conscious of our potentials and along with it to understand that we should exploit it by our selves rather than landing it to others, but this will come probably after relaxation in the banking sector and also busting of leasing sector, no one in the world became developed by itself! we only must preserve our current political and economical stability and after a while standard will rise on all levels, normally if we start taking some investment risks as whole normal world! if its any comfort finally we are disbanding defensive economic options and we turning to offensive ones, which normaly will bring more risking but also more opportunity, but time will tell whether we have shoulders to bear this kind of burden! http://www.build.com.mk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=594&PID=34602#34602 

www.build.com.mk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=742

www.heritage.org/Index/Country/Macedonia

nevertheless we are still happy coz happiness can't be bought with money, here we spend little time on work and more on pleasure even so we are not rich, and maybe this is why we are optimistic!? we have mentality which is satisfied with small things rather that big ones, and normally this is the main reason why people find Macedonia pleasant place for living even we are poor measurable by west standards, among cheerful people you are cheerful too and have time for everything and everyone... www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozL1rmcI-eY thats why bitola is for example town with unique atmosphere even thou theres nothing special going on, or kriva palanka is best place if you looking for pollution-less place...

The richest region in Macedonia is the Euroregion Belasica( Strumitza , Petrich , Kukush ) created 24th February 2003 in Kukush, the annexation of three trans border non-profit organizations, which in fact is a network of local government, business and social partners at national borders between Macedonia, Greece and Bulgaria. One of the very few (perhaps the only active) euroregion of the Balkan region and one of very few Euroregion composed of European - member countries and non-members.
And I think the poorest region is the northen-east part of Macedonia ( covering , Kriva Palanka , Kratovo , Delchevo , Makedonska Kamenitza ) there observe the lowest number of investments, the highest unemployment rate, and at least industry.

Edited by leonid23 - 30-Dec-2009 at 06:02

Bitola used to be the best town/city to live in Macedonia, but after the breakup of Yugoslavia and huge centralization, all of the other places in RM lose in favor of the capital Skopje. Noways maybe Stip and Strumica are better than they used to be.
All in all, from my point of view, besides Skopje could be:

1 Bitola
2 Strumica
3 Stip
4 Prilep
5 Ohrid
6 Gevgelija


Edited by stratus - 03-Dec-2014 at 22:11

easy living - surrounded by optimistic people, neighbours greeting each other, politics dont kill, merchants willing to bargain, pretty rainbow colors on faces of the people going by...

unboring place - people hanging rather in squares and parks than cafes i.e. having local animation like street artists or gigs...

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if you box yourself in commercial 4-walled entertainment its normally to become victim of prices and feedback, thus searching for that ideal moment when your standards will be fulfilled, SIMPLY turn new page and start bringing food and drinks with you on special places maybe mount Vodno in your case, in my time even though we had cheap and widespread party time with good vibe STIL we always strive to occupy some building roof for sightseeing or some hill for stargazing so chajnik be odevme u auto ova denes sve raspekmezeno iako dosta krena toa rekreativniot sport za razlika od tranzicijata

stay + Z life is beautifull even when there is no hope, just enjoy the show, and if u can runaway in Prilep if not Bitola from time to time as i found out there are once a week free train trips for all

btw i'm not so old to remember that in our transitional timeless youth there was even less options than today, but what makes ur atitude is ur mood jugling ability today tied from fb and yt i.e. one video can easily make blackout and another lightbomb

Skopye always fluffy enough







Edited by Max - 16-Dec-2014 at 00:44

Skopye - turkish Soap factory



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